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Poll Question : What should we do with Daala
Choice Votes Statistics
Leave her alone, she is fine 4 12.121212 %
Change her before Gencon 12 36.363636 %
Change her after Gencon 16 48.484848 %
Ban her completely 1 3.030303 %

How should we proceed with Daala Options
countrydude82487
Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:40:06 AM
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atmsalad wrote:
Darth_Reignir wrote:
Tournament players need to stop being so afraid of errata/banning pieces. I understand that now that you guys are in control, there's a certain "Honeymoon Phase" of getting to call the shots on what gets errata'd/banned, but I think now should be a prime example of why those types of things were occurring in the first place. The fact of the matter is that when you don't ban some of these NPE pieces, the tournament scenes will continue to generate the same teams (like we see the NPE of 13 mouse droids at least once a tourney.

Let's be smart here. I get the reservations, but the entire community should be the first priority.


A month out I would be fine with it... I know some people don't like the regional season seemingly meaning nothing though. 2 weeks away from gencon would tick me and a lot of guys off.


I don't think everyone is against banning a few broken pieces, however they have said before they will not errata or ban WOTC pieces, and i would stand by that idea.
The problem by opening up banning of WOTC pieces is that once a piece ( Other Than GOWK) is banned it will just Escalate.
THis is not to Say i am against banning Daala. TO me SHe may need it. But i would be against further erratas to her. At that point she would be a completely errata'd card, and therefore confusing to anyone involved in playing her or against her.
SignerJ
Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 11:48:36 AM
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markedman247 wrote:
Would "Independent" (Re: Alto Stratus) with Imperial work? Means only 1 other Imp commander. Would that continue the abuse?


I think that this is a good idea. It fits with her character (just consider how many Imperial leaders she killed!), and it weakens the strength of the troopers. Being forced to choose only one other commander would also make squad building much more strategic. Playtesting would be needed, though, as it might just cripple Daala squads entirely.

And I'm still in favor of waiting until AFTER Gencon before making any changes.
swinefeld
Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:56:14 PM
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SignerJ wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
Would "Independent" (Re: Alto Stratus) with Imperial work? Means only 1 other Imp commander. Would that continue the abuse?


I think that this is a good idea. It fits with her character (just consider how many Imperial leaders she killed!), and it weakens the strength of the troopers. Being forced to choose only one other commander would also make squad building much more strategic. Playtesting would be needed, though, as it might just cripple Daala squads entirely.

And I'm still in favor of waiting until AFTER Gencon before making any changes.


On that note, here's an idea (stealing from Epic Vader)

Quote:
Commander Effect
Once per round, after initiative is determined, you may remove one Unique allied Imperial commander to grant all Imperial trooper allies Charging Fire for the rest of the round.


Tongue

atmsalad
Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 1:05:55 PM
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swinefeld wrote:
SignerJ wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
Would "Independent" (Re: Alto Stratus) with Imperial work? Means only 1 other Imp commander. Would that continue the abuse?


I think that this is a good idea. It fits with her character (just consider how many Imperial leaders she killed!), and it weakens the strength of the troopers. Being forced to choose only one other commander would also make squad building much more strategic. Playtesting would be needed, though, as it might just cripple Daala squads entirely.

And I'm still in favor of waiting until AFTER Gencon before making any changes.


On that note, here's an idea (stealing from Epic Vader)

Quote:
Commander Effect
Once per round, after initiative is determined, you may remove one Unique allied Imperial commander to grant all Imperial trooper allies Charging Fire for the rest of the round.


Tongue



That's cool, even troopers would be fun, like Muun tactics for imps... Except don't make it optional I think...
Darth_Reignir
Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 4:05:15 PM
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How about a compromise on all the issues at once? First, we only ban her AFTER Gen Con, as they do have a point: those who have been working on teams with Daala would get ripped off.

Then, once that piece is banned, the Team could make a new, revised, and legal Daala and tack her on to a V-Set. Thoughts?
atmsalad
Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 5:37:26 PM
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Darth_Reignir wrote:
How about a compromise on all the issues at once? First, we only ban her AFTER Gen Con, as they do have a point: those who have been working on teams with Daala would get ripped off.

Then, once that piece is banned, the Team could make a new, revised, and legal Daala and tack her on to a V-Set. Thoughts?


I like it...
DarkDracul
Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 6:01:44 PM
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Darth_Reignir wrote:
Then, once that piece is banned, the Team could make a new, revised, and legal Daala and tack her on to a V-Set. Thoughts?
Temporarily banned or not, if further changes are made to her it would be nice to have a new card for her.
Deathwielded
Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 6:04:48 PM
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swinefeld wrote:
SignerJ wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
Would "Independent" (Re: Alto Stratus) with Imperial work? Means only 1 other Imp commander. Would that continue the abuse?


I think that this is a good idea. It fits with her character (just consider how many Imperial leaders she killed!), and it weakens the strength of the troopers. Being forced to choose only one other commander would also make squad building much more strategic. Playtesting would be needed, though, as it might just cripple Daala squads entirely.

And I'm still in favor of waiting until AFTER Gencon before making any changes.


On that note, here's an idea (stealing from Epic Vader)

Quote:
Commander Effect
Once per round, after initiative is determined, you may remove one Unique allied Imperial commander to grant all Imperial trooper allies Charging Fire for the rest of the round.


Tongue



Seems legitThumpUp
General_Grievous
Posted: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 8:44:55 AM
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DarkDracul wrote:
Darth_Reignir wrote:
Then, once that piece is banned, the Team could make a new, revised, and legal Daala and tack her on to a V-Set. Thoughts?
Temporarily banned or not, if further changes are made to her it would be nice to have a new card for her.


Agree with new card idea if that route is taken.
SignerJ
Posted: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:26:55 PM
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Deathwielded wrote:
swinefeld wrote:
SignerJ wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
Would "Independent" (Re: Alto Stratus) with Imperial work? Means only 1 other Imp commander. Would that continue the abuse?


I think that this is a good idea. It fits with her character (just consider how many Imperial leaders she killed!), and it weakens the strength of the troopers. Being forced to choose only one other commander would also make squad building much more strategic. Playtesting would be needed, though, as it might just cripple Daala squads entirely.

And I'm still in favor of waiting until AFTER Gencon before making any changes.


On that note, here's an idea (stealing from Epic Vader)

Quote:
Commander Effect
Once per round, after initiative is determined, you may remove one Unique allied Imperial commander to grant all Imperial trooper allies Charging Fire for the rest of the round.


Tongue



Seems legitThumpUp


That also might work, if she needs any changes.
jak
Posted: Thursday, July 31, 2014 8:32:46 AM
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How should we proceed with Daala?

beat her and brake her bloody

then...........
throw her to a pack of gundarksThumpUp
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