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gholli69
Posted: Friday, January 30, 2015 1:10:50 PM
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If a character gains Mettle from a force spirit and then is subject to a CE that grants them the ability to reroll each failed save once would the Mettle bonus apply to the reroll from the CE? I would think the answer would be no because it says in the glossary definition of Mettle that if a character spends 1 force point to reroll then they get a +4 to the save roll. However due to the reroll triggering from the CE the character wouldn't spend force so shouldn't be able to apply the +4 from mettle in my way of thinking. Thanks for any clarification that you guys can give me on this as I am trying to playtest a V-10 piece and want to find the best synergys possible but want to make sure they work correctly as well.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Friday, January 30, 2015 1:38:21 PM
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No, you don't get Mettle if you don't spend a Force point. But you would keep Mettle bonus on a free reroll after spending a Force point.

First roll: No Mettle bonus.
Spend a force point: Mettle bonus.
Free reroll: Still have the Mettle bonus.

First roll: No Mettle bonus.
Free reroll: No Mettle bonus.
Spend a force point: Mettle bonus.

So it's a gamble... spend the Force point immediately when you might not need to. Or wait until after the free reroll but only get Mettle on one roll when you could have had it for two.

Note that you only get 1 free reroll from a CE. You don't get a 2nd free one if you spend a Force point since it's all still the same "roll".

* I'm only 85% sure on this. Wait for swinefeld to confirm.
swinefeld
Posted: Friday, January 30, 2015 1:44:51 PM
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Ha, I'm brain dead at the moment. I'll have to look that up a bit later. Probably covered in the FAQ.
urbanjedi
Posted: Friday, January 30, 2015 1:59:45 PM
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Tj is correct as far as I know
swinefeld
Posted: Friday, January 30, 2015 5:03:44 PM
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Yep, TJ is correct.

Just remember, the Mettle bonus is only good for a particular save roll (say Evade) and subsequent rerolls of that save.

NOT for any separate saves generated by other effects (say Poison +10).
gholli69
Posted: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:59:14 AM
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thanks guys, that's the way I thought that it worked due to the wording, but tought it best to clarify since I am playtesting and it may make a pretty big difference in the way the character plays.
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