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Interesting discovery... an Anakin Skywalker, Force Spirit?! Options
seibermaki
Posted: Thursday, February 4, 2010 8:21:58 AM
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totally...
LoboStele
Posted: Thursday, February 4, 2010 8:30:00 AM
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Talisker55 wrote:
I have to admit, I am not happy about the inclusion of the Dejarik pieces especially when this is the last set.

Atleast I know where to store them, right next to all the knobby white spiders and TIE crawlers. Out of sight out of mind.


Hey now, no need to completely dismiss them until we at least know their stats. Sheesh.

As for Anakin, as long as he does something fundamentally different than Obi FS, I'm fine with it. I just don't want it to be Obi FS with Speed 6. That would be a total waste. I have faith in Peter Lee though. :)

And I always thought that Hayden at the end of ROTJ made sense, since when Luke redeemed him, he 'reverted' back to how he looked before he went dark side. I don't know. I understand why it bugs some people, I guess it just never bothered me that much.

Then again, I grew up with old movies/toys, and also still like the prequels, and don't think Jar-Jar's that bad. Guess some of us are just more OK with compromise.

However...HAN shot first. Will never change my mind about that, lol.
Lachesis
Posted: Thursday, February 4, 2010 8:33:09 AM
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LoboStele wrote:

However...HAN shot first. Will never change my mind about that, lol.


Quoted For Truth
Squid89
Posted: Thursday, February 4, 2010 9:27:38 AM
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I like the holograms as blue and force spirits as another color (orangish). Would be cool to see spirit Yoda in the set, too just for kicks. I would be rather disappointed if he were a faster Obi-Wan. Not sure what I would prefer, but something new.

The Dejarik pieces are a great idea. As a collector, I am really looking forward to these pieces. They have never been done in any of the toy lines, so it's the only way we get to display them. I know I'll be making a custom sized holotable to display mine.

I'm OK with Hayden in RotJ, but I still like to watch my unedited movie versions, too. Han always shot first! JarJar is better than the C-3PO lines in the Geonosis Arena.
Dead horse
Posted: Thursday, February 4, 2010 5:37:04 PM
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Ghostikin might grant force renewal 1, mettle, and maybe master of the force 2. Also possible that he gives out Master of the Force X and Force Renewal X to those who already have those abilities, with X being one more than their current number.

The Hayden haunting is one of the few special edition changes that actually makes sense, hence I can't hate it. Goofy CGI Han shoots first? Looks dumb, messes up the story by making him less of a rogue at the beginning so it trivializes his character arc and isn't as big a leap for him to come back and help Luke at the end. Having Han's Death Star charge interrupted by 50 instead of 8 stormtroopers? It's more jarring so the scene is funnier. Han stepping on Jabba's tail? Makes one of the antagonists a joke instead of an object of fear.

I also have to butt in on the prequels. They have strong points, mostly visual stuff. Even the goofy CGI in The Phantom Menace was way ahead of other stuff that came out at the time. But boy howdy do the stories have problems. TPM has no protagonist, no central antagonist, and no well-defined, gripping central conflict that the heroes have to solve OR ELSE. AotC is a love story about two flat, annoying people who don't actually seem to like each other that much. RotS dilutes the story by giving Anakin a couple of half-assed reasons to fall to the dark side instead of focusing on one strong flaw. All of them having glaring, unnecessary callbacks to the original trilogy ("Luke, I'm your father...plus I built your effiminate robot pal 30 years ago, what a co-inky-dink!") that take viewers out of the moment and make them think about how much more compelling the old ones were, even with their flaws ("from a certain point of view" my asteroid, George).
Draconarius
Posted: Friday, February 5, 2010 10:38:55 AM
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TPM has no protagonist, no central antagonist, and no well-defined, gripping central conflict that the heroes have to solve OR ELSE.


You know, I've never quite been able to define exactly what was so bad about TPM, but you just did. Thank you.

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AotC is a love story about two flat, annoying people who don't actually seem to like each other that much.


QFT. The 'romance scenes' in TPM are so bad they're cringe worthy. Especially the confessions of love just before they enter the beast arena. *shudder*

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RotS dilutes the story by giving Anakin a couple of half-assed reasons to fall to the dark side instead of focusing on one strong flaw.


Again, QFT. IMO, the novel is a hundred times the story the movie is, primarily because it actually makes Anakin's fall... oh, I don't know... believable!
eMouse
Posted: Friday, February 5, 2010 10:42:04 AM
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Mitth'raw'nuruodo wrote:
I'm looking at the underside of the base, and not seeing the words "Wizards of the Coast" . . It also looks like 15/30


Check your figures, you won't find it on any of them. The sculpts are all copyright and trademark LFL because that's who owns the characters the sculpts depict.
Darth Percocet
Posted: Saturday, February 6, 2010 4:40:02 AM
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I dunno, i dont think its a real mini, if you look at where the figure meets the base you'll see a big glob of glue. It just seems to butchered up to be a real mini. It would be decent though & if it isnt real they did the most accurate sculpting on the face i ever seen. I dunno though then again it might be to good to be fake so we'll have to wait and see. If it is real then i think if any force spirit for republic they should of made a qui-gon one. An anakin force spirit would have to be an imp or rebel one basically because when he died it was during that era. Same with Obi-Wan Jedi Spirit, he's for the rebel faction because thats when he died during that era.

Now a Qui-Gon force spirit would be more accurate for republic because Yoda was contacting him before the fall of the Republic & he was during that era as yoda mentions at the end of episode 3 when he tells Obi-Wan about it. So i just think he would be a more accurate force spirit for republic.
Sithborg
Posted: Saturday, February 6, 2010 11:49:00 AM
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It's real. Unless they figured out how to fake the underside of the mini.
seibermaki
Posted: Saturday, February 6, 2010 11:57:35 AM
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seibermaki wrote:
Tirade wrote:
seibermaki wrote:
I'd be annoyed if a "light spirit" is red. Shouldn't he be "dark spirit" and support factions like Imperial or Sith?


Why would he be a dark spirit? It's supposed to be Anakin after he was redeemed.


because it's red? unless that's not the final coloring...


I forgot what color the force spirit minis are. :P
Dead horse
Posted: Saturday, February 6, 2010 12:41:48 PM
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Draconarius wrote:

QFT. The 'romance scenes' in TPM are so bad they're cringe worthy. Especially the confessions of love just before they enter the beast arena. *shudder*


Yeah, that's probably my least favorite thing in the whole movie. "I truly, deeply love you...and so I'm telling you in utter monotone, with the facial expression of a dead bulldog."

Draconarius wrote:

Again, QFT. IMO, the novel is a hundred times the story the movie is, primarily because it actually makes Anakin's fall... oh, I don't know... believable!


I kinda want to read the novelizations now. There were supposedly things in the earlier drafts of the prequel screenplays that would have made them better, like a lot of bad history between the Naboo and the Gungans that made their alliance a big deal (they don't want to let Qui-Gon bring Jar Jar on the spaceship) and Anakin finding Sith holocrons he could possibly use to save Padme filed under "masters only" in the Jedi temple archives, which makes his little hissy fit about not being made a master part of the grand plan. Also, supposedly all Jedi could wear whatever they wanted but had to dress in black in one draft of episode I, which sounds cool. I guarantee Mace Windu would've had a Kangol hat.

I don't want anybody who loves the prequels to think I'm saying their tastes are bad, or wrong, or badrong. I just know that these things that I'm pointing out are elements that make stories accessible and engrossing, and the prequels don't have 'em. It just means a smaller audience is going to enjoy them.
mercenary_moose
Posted: Saturday, February 6, 2010 4:35:41 PM
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There is no way to sugarcoat it: Most parts of the prequels suck.
markedman247
Posted: Saturday, February 6, 2010 4:49:50 PM
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I don't know if anyone looked it up but there is a 7 part review of Star Wars: The Phantom Menace on YouTube. I would post the link but it really isn't kid-friendly (is much on youtube?). It's funny and painfully true.
Most telling:
The "Without saying their name, describe the character without saying their name:"
1) Han Solo: "Dashing. Rogue with Heart of Gold. Rugged. Crafty."
2) Qui-Gon Jinn: "Um... He has a beard."
Dead horse
Posted: Saturday, February 6, 2010 10:44:06 PM
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LoboStele wrote:

However...HAN shot first. Will never change my mind about that, lol.


George Lucas has heard your prayers.
Dead horse
Posted: Sunday, February 7, 2010 12:54:58 PM
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markedman247 wrote:

Most telling:
The "Without saying their name, describe the character without saying their name:"
1) Han Solo: "Dashing. Rogue with Heart of Gold. Rugged. Crafty."
2) Qui-Gon Jinn: "Um... He has a beard."


Best part was Padme. "Without mentioning her clothes, describe Queen Amidala." "That's going to be really hard if I can't talk about her clothes."
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