If I play with out the v-sets, is GOWK considered to be ineligible? Are there any other players in the wotc set that are ruled to be ineligible as well?

o.k. thanks. But, was the 2012 ruling assuming people were using v-set cards at that point or was it in the scope of only using wotc figures and cards?

Also, why are there rulings/restrictions for tournament play but not to be instituted when I play my friends in my house? Basically, I want to play non-vset swm as accurately as possible with family and friends and am obviously exploring what is and is not allowed when using non-vset builds.

Also, do you know about the Floor Rules and Map Lists - you can download them from here: http://swmresources.com/

TheHutts has it exactly correct.

At the end of WotC, GOWK was 'nerfed' for tournaments so that SSM only worked for non-melee attacks. The Vsets have more viable direct damage options (which makes GOWK less dominant) so SSM reverted to what the card says. If you aren't playing with Vsets, you may want to play with SSM nerfed.

Making SWM a 'completed' game isn't a bad idea, but because it was so widely played, dominant strategies are known, so squadbuilding is less important if you're playing a standard format (unless you just want variety and aren't so concerned with winning).

When WOTC stopped producing minis, every piece was legal for tourney play. SSM had been changed so that it only worked on non-melee attacks. You could walk up to GOWK with any melee dude and kill him in about 2 turns or so.

SSM was changed back to match the card for a couple of reason. The primary reason being the change of the National Champs from 150 pts to 200 pts. With more points, there were many more options to be able to defeat GOWK. At 150 pts it was nearly impossible to kill GOWK in a 1 hr timed game unless you specifically had an anti-gowk squad (lots of direct damage, Lord Vader, etc). It also made for less confusion as there were many tourney both while he was banned and while SSM was nerfed that people played him incorrectly, or didn't know he was banned, etc. Now it works like it originally did when released by WOTC.


Also, when WOTC left there were exactly 6 maps that were legal for high end tournament play

Ravaged Base
Throne Room
Rancor Pen
Bespin
Jedi Temple
Muun Grand Plaza

Throne Room and Jedi Temple have since been removed because they can be very abusive. Muun was removed for quite a while (for fear of the lancer) and was recently brought back to the tournament level map list.


The designer of the WOTC game (rob watkins) changed how the first phase worked long before WOTC left the scene so that whoever goes first only activates one character in the first phase of the game. It never made it into the rule book but is mentioned in some parts of the FAQ (I know it is talked about in regards to Grand Moff Tarkin and Marr Tuuk as they can allow you to move more than 1 in the first phase because of the way their CEs work).


If I recall correctly, for a very long time rigid was ignored in "sealed" events and eventually that restriction was changed to ignored in all tournaments.

Actually I think if you took out Strafe/Gallop you would probably want to take out Temp Control (Ozzel, Dodonna, San) as well as Strafe/Gallop was part of what kept act control in some sort of check.

So, If took nothing out and used all wotc pieces, then only a few squads could ever win, right?

Gencon 2010, these were simpler times.

hold on right there. Star Wars Minis was represented at Gencon this year? Get the hell out of here. What booth? I didn't realize Wizards still had their hand down Star Wars pants.

Can someone tell me where you all were set up at? I'm curious to know if I passed by and just didn't notice.