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TheHutts
Posted: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 3:09:17 PM
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It's that time of year - here's a summary of some stats from the four Regionals* we've seen so far, in terms of how the different factions are doing. I think it gets harder and harder to blanket factions, as some have very diverse builds - it is an indication of how things are going altogether. I do think this year's meta has seen a big shakeup, with Talon Karrde, Tantives, Buzz Droids/LINs, and Daala all having a big impact on how things are working. There's more strafe hate around, more Jedi hate around, and there are more swarms around.

This is the summary of how the top 4s have been looking (there should be one green bar for Rebels - I had some results mistakenly labelled as "Rebel"):




And this is the placings for each faction, boiled down into one number - the higher, the better a faction has been performing. For example, the one Sith squad so far placed at 6th out of 11 squads at LowerHuttACon - it finished exactly halfway up the table, so got a 0.5, hence the overall Sith rating of 0.5.

The Tantives, along with some support from Luke and Leia on Speeder, have been enough to put Rebels back on top, while the Imperials and Separatists are perennially strong:




* I'm including LowerHuttACon and NZ Nationals in New Zealand as Regionals for the purposes of this - they're in the same frame.


Does anyone know how the lower part of the rankings for Indiana looked - I couldn't find the rankings anywhere?


Michigan Regional
Winner: Daala, Piett, Pelleaon, Security Officer Stormy, Czerka, Snow Commander, Snow officer, Mas, R7, Raxus, 11x snow, 2x ugo

2nd: Mace, Foul, SkyGuy, Captain Pancake, Mas, R2 Astrosmash, R7, 4x rodian, Spaarti

3rd: Luke and Leia on Speeder, Han Smuggler, Lobot, Bothan, ERC, Crix, Rieekan, Gha, Lamedonna, 3x mice,

4th: Talon, Embo, Dash, Marn, Jarael, TBSV, Givin BS Slocer, R7, 4x mice, ugo


Indiana Regional
Winner: Talon Karrde, Information Broker, Dash Rendar Renegade Smuggler, Lobot, Han Solo Gambler, Gha Nachkt, Klatooinian Assassin, Rodian Assassin, R7 Astromech Droid x2, Mouse Droid x9,

2nd: 100pt Dooku, Poggle, BX Spotter, BX Sniper, R7, San Hil, and a crap-ton of bombs

Semi-finalist: Durge on Speeder, Lancer, Sideous, Maar Tuk, Poggle, a bunch of drones, mtb in base squad, 3 uggies

Semi-finalist: Durge on Speeder, Cad Bane BH, and Asajj


LowerHuttACon
Winner: Admiral Daala, Piett, Pellaeon, GARY, Imperial Officer, Stormie on Sled, Needa, Mas, R7, Ugnaughts, Raxus * 12

2nd: Luke HoE, Biggs Rebel Pilot, Lobot, Jon Dutch, Red Squadron Ace, Klat Captain, Dodonna, Juno, Tantive * 4, Ugnaught * 2

3rd: Han GH, Mara Jade Jedi, Ganner, Anakin Solo, Dodonna, Lobot, Ug * 2, YV Ossus Protector

4th: Embo, Talon Karrde IB, Dash, Lobot, Marn, Jarael, TBSV, Mouse * 2, Ugnaught


PA Regional
Winner: Admiral Daala, Snowtrooper Commander, Snowtrooper Officer, LIN Demolitionmech, Mas Amedda, R7 X 2, Snowtrooper X 21, Ugnaught Demolitionist X 2

2nd: Tantive IV Trooper X 19, R7, General Dodonna, Momaw Nadon, Klatoonian Captain, Han Solo, Smuggler, General Lando Calrissian

Semi-finalist: Grievous DAC, Lancer X 2, Darth Sideous, IG 86, Gha Nacht, Ugnaught Demolitionist X 3, Mouse X 5

Semi-finalist: Supreme Overlord Quorreal, Zenoc Quah, Yun Yammka Fanatic X 5, Yammosk War Coordinator, Advance Agent Officer, Zonoma Selcott Scout X 3, Shamed One


Tennessee Regional
Winner: Zam Wessel Bounty Hunter, Talon Karde, information broker, lobot, 6 klat assassins, r7, 2 ugnaughts, and a human bodyguard

2nd: Master Thon, hk47, covenant executor, bastilla, senator, squib trader

3rd: Daala, 6 elite scout troopers, palleon, ozzel, piet, commander to give super stealth,forget the rest right off hand.

4th: Kavar, Ulic, Cay, bastilla, lobot


WNY Regional
Winner: Mon Mothma, Yularen, Panaka of Theed, Padawan Cmdr, Queenie Amidala, Doombot, Mas, Naboo Trooper x11,Rodian Diplomat, Spaarti CTD x3, Naboo Soldier x4

2nd: Boss Nass, Captain Panaka, Dr. Evazan, Galactic Criminal, Queen Amidala, Momaw Nadon, Clone Trooper with Flamethrower x2, Gungan Artillerist x5, R2-D2, Astromech Droid, Rodian Diplomat, Spaarti Clone Trooper Demolitionist x2, Mouse Droid, Rodian Brute x2

Semi-finalist: Karrde, Dash, Morrigan, 4 Klats

Semi-finalist: Tantive IV Trooper X 19, R7, General Dodonna, Momaw Nadon, Klatoonian Captain, Han Solo, Smuggler, General Lando Calrissian


Chicago
Winner - Nom Anor, Yomin Carr, SO Quorreal, Yammosk, 2 PB Soldiers, Viqi Shesh, 8 workers, 1 advance scout

2nd place - SO Quorreal, Prefect DeGara, 3 PB Soldiers, 8 PV Scouts (cloaked, pathfinder, forward positioning), Warrior Caste subcommander (gives blastbug and mobile), 2 uggies

3rd place - Daala, Piett, Felucian ST Officer, Pelleaon, Gary, Mas, 2 uggies, 2 R7s, 2 Elite couts, 8 regular stormtroopers, 1 dignitary

4th place - Talon's Hat Trick - Talon IB, Embo, Dash Rendar RS, Lobot, Jareal, Marn, Twi'lek BSV, uggie, mouse


California
Winner: Nom Anor Executor, Quah, Jedi Hunters, Yammosk, Priest, P Scout and Z Scouts, Worker, Shamed)

2nd: New Republic (Kyle Battlemaster, Gantoris, Exar Dark Spirit, Wedge, Leia, Twilek Vigo, Dodonna, Mice, Uggos)

3rd: Obi Jedi General, Doombot, Rex, Argyus, Senate Commandos, Spaartis, Rodian Dips)

4th: Thrawn-Mitth, General Weir, Storm Commandos, Calixte, a lot of super stealth swap fodder, uggos)


Wisconsin
Winner: Atton Jaq Rand, Bastilla Jedi Master, Carth OR soldier, klat capt, 2 Jedi sentinels, OR Senator, 2 chandra fan pilots, an R7, and 2 mice

2nd: Mando Ressurector, Kelborn, CIO, Gha, Lobot, Scout, mice

3rd: Talon, Klats, morrigan Corde, Zam BH, Dash RS

4th: Mando Res, Cassus Fett, Kelborn, CIO, Gha, Lobot, Scout


Alberta
Winner: Pong, Rex, Kazdan, Lobot, Monnok, Ghhhk

2nd: GOWK, Rex, R2, Fordo, Mas, the rest Arc Scouts

3rd: Maul Death Watch Overlord, Pre-Visla, assorted Death Watch

4th: Embo, Jacen, Vergere, Jariah Syn, Mara Jade Smuggler, Wedge, Luke Ghost


NZ Nationals
Winner: Admiral Daala, Piett, Pellaeon, GARY, Imperial Officer, Stormie on Sled, Needa, Mas, R7, Ugnaughts, Raxus * 12

2nd: Admiral Daala, Pellaeon, 18 Snowtroopers, Snowtrooper Commander, Snowtrooper Officer, Security guy, Mas Amedda, R7, Ug * 2, Mouse

3rd: Revan SL, Kaan, Mandalore the Lesser, Mandalorian Supercommando, Lobot

4th: Talon Kardde, Marn, 10 * Klats, Lobot
FlyingArrow
Posted: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 5:41:04 PM
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TheHutts, thanks so much for putting this together!

Flashback top the 2013 season: http://www.bloomilk.com/forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12454&p=5
countrydude82487
Posted: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 7:20:35 PM
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i was 3rd at Indiana's. I was playing Durge on speeder, Cad Bane Bounty Hunter, Assajj, Nightsister, San Hill, Lobot, Rodian Assasin, R7, 2x Mouse Droids, Ugnaught Demo.
TheHutts
Posted: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 7:39:00 PM
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countrydude82487 wrote:
i was 3rd at Indiana's. I was playing Durge on speeder, Cad Bane Bounty Hunter, Assajj, Nightsister, San Hill, Lobot, Rodian Assasin, R7, 2x Mouse Droids, Ugnaught Demo.


I have the top 6, and number 12 - I just don't know all of the factions or the order for the stuff in between.

This is what I know:
Fringe (Han Gambler) Indiana 1
Separatist (Dooku) Indiana 2
Separatist (Durge) Indiana 3
Separatist (Durge) Indiana 4
OR (atmsalad) Indiana 5
Fringe (Laura) Indiana 6
Fringe (????) Indiana 7
Mandalorian (Amanda) Indiana ???
Separatist (Les with Palpatine and Quinlan) Indiana ???
Republic (Mace) Indiana ???
Imperial (Daala with Storm Commandos) Indiana ???
Yuuzhan Vong Indiana 12
atmsalad
Posted: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 7:44:33 PM
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7nth was another fringe
leshippy
Posted: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 5:54:47 PM
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Indiana - After Four Rounds
1. Chris Pullis Seps Durge and Cad BH
2. Jason K Seps?
3 Tim B Fringe
4 Mike Giles Seps
5 Ettan OR
6 Laura Fringe
7 Les Seps
8 Bryan Fringe
9 Greg ??
10 Randy IMP
11 Jake Vong? Not sure
12 Amand Mando
atmsalad
Posted: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 6:08:11 PM
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I stand corrected, lol
atmsalad
Posted: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 6:16:09 PM
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Haha, just so you know my name is spelled Etienne, lol
atmsalad
Posted: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 6:17:20 PM
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I believe Greg had the mace to the face squad?
leshippy
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atmsalad wrote:
Haha, just so you know my name is spelled Etienne, lol

Sorry bro
atmsalad
Posted: Thursday, May 8, 2014 6:04:42 AM
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No worries, happens all the time
TimmerB123
Posted: Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:03:42 AM
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In IN, a few things:

Randy did run Daala with Storm Commandos, but the key was his insane 10 Imp Diplomats attacking at +10 for 30, and you usually couldn't attack them back due to his superstealthed Storm Commandos.

Greg ran Republic Critdu, Master Yoda (vset 4), Aayla JK, R2, Foul, 2 sparties, 2 uggies (missing something). But anyway - no Panaka.

Jakes Vong was:

--Trick or BEATING--
30 Supreme Overlord Quorreal
29 Domain Shai Subaltern
28 Zenoc Quah
24 Eminence Harrar
20 Yuuzhan Vong Hunter on Quednak
15 Yammosk War Coordinator
11 Advance Agent, Officer
22 Yuuzhan Vong High-bred Warrior x2
5 Zonoma Sekot Scout
16 Yuuzhan Vong Worker x4

(200pts. 14 activations)
thereisnotry
Posted: Thursday, May 8, 2014 9:46:54 AM
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Hmm, Daala has won 3 of the 4 Regionals so far.

Someone has to say it, so I guess I will: maybe we didn't nerf Daala hard enough. She doesn't restrict the meta quite so severely now as she did before the nerf (and the Slaver nerf), but she's still got a choke-hold on it.

As an example, I played the best I could (ie, no mistakes or bone-head moves) in the PA regional vs FlyingArrow's Daala Snowtroopers, but the final score was 200+ to my 96pts...and this was with JarJar killing 7 troopers himself just with lucky Bombad saves. My squad had 3 Cloaked and 1 Stealth piece, too, with Soresu, FPRRs, careful placement, lots of out-thinking, etc. Lou (who won MI with Daala) said that he didn't run her in PA because "I already won a Regional with Daala so I didn't want to use her again."

Everyone is welcome to draw their own conclusions, but to me it's clear: Daala isn't just Tier 1 (which would be cool), but she's a gatekeeper. Still.

[I don't mean to derail this thread, so let's keep discussion on the Daala thread; I'm copying this post over there.]
atmsalad
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Hey hutt, would you mind updating the graphs for me with the Indiana results?(when you get a chance, no rush!) I am visual and would really appreciate that 😊
TheHutts
Posted: Thursday, May 8, 2014 5:48:51 PM
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Sure - the other one barely changed, but this one moved a bit:

Mando
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*bump due to the bot attack**
TheHutts
Posted: Monday, June 2, 2014 1:52:49 PM
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I tried categorising the squads that have made it into the top 4. I'm sure people will pick over them, and would come up with something different if they did it, but that's the way I see it.

A lot of squads are really hybrids - eg Dooku/lots of Geonosians is a swarm as well, but since there's 100 points of Jedi in there, I classified it under melee.
I didn't put Tantives under swarm, since they're not the main damage dealer - I put the Luke HoE build under melee, and the Han Smuggler ones under shooters.

So far, it looks like we've had in the top 4s:

Swarms (6):
Daala: 4
Naboo Troopers: 1
Gungans: 1

Melee (7):
Mace: 1
Dooku: 1
Luke HoE with Tantives: 1
Solo Charge: 1
Master Thon: 1
OR Jedi: 1
Yun Yammka Fanatic swarm: 1

Strafe (4):
Luke and Leia on Speeder: 1
Durge on Speeder: 2
Double Lancer: 1

Shooter Squads (7):
Talon: 5
Tantives with Han: 2


If you look at it that way, things actually seem relatively balanced.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Monday, June 2, 2014 4:24:24 PM
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If it's not too much work, can you run the percentages for each squad type?
TheHutts
Posted: Monday, June 2, 2014 4:25:07 PM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
If it's not too much work, can you run the percentages for each squad type?


I can do it once I have full results for WNY, I guess. It might be hard to find some of the data though.
TheHutts
Posted: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 2:41:28 PM
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As discussed on SHNN the other night, but updated for the WNY Regional results, factions that are doing best at getting at getting into the Top 4 at Regionals thus far:

0%: Mandalorian
0% Sith
25%: Yuuzhan Vong
27%: Republic
33%: New Republic
40%: Old Republic
44%: Separatist
50%: Imperial
56%: Fringe
67%: Rebel
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