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TheHutts
Posted: Monday, December 15, 2014 5:12:27 PM
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I like making lists - here's my list of the strongest/most significant piece from each set. Make your own, or disagree with mine.

Rebel Storm
Grand Moff Tarkin (one of the less clear cut ones - could easily be Imperial Officer or Veers)

Clone Strike
Darth Sidious

Revenge of the Sith
R2-D2 Astromech Droid

Universe
Lobot

Champions of the Force
Ugnaught Demolitionist

Bounty Hunters
Lord Vader? He doesn't see much play anymore, but there's not a lot of competition.

Alliance and Empire
Princess Leia

The Force Unleashed
Admiral Ozzel

Legacy of the Force
General Dodonna

Knights of the Old Republic
Captain Panaka

The Clone Wars (plus starter packs etc)
General Obi-Wan Kenobi (I think - GGDAC, Lancer, Yobuck are all good choices too)

Imperial Entanglements
Thrawn (Mitth'raw'nuruodo).

Jedi Academy
I'd probably opt for Anakin Solo over the Jedi Battlemaster, but this set is lacking in power pieces.

Galaxy At War
General Whorm Loathsom

The Dark Times
Rodian Brute

Masters of the Force
Ganner Rhysode

Destiny of the Force
Bastila Shan, Jedi Master (Poggle and Pellaeon are very close runner ups)

Renegades and Rogues (plus sub-set)
Captain Panaka of Theed

Vengeance (plus sub-set)
Momaw Nadon

Scum and Villainy (plus sub-set)
Klatooinian Assassin

Galactic Heroes (plus sub-set)
Darth Caedus, Sith Lord

Command of the Galaxy (plus sub-set)
Admiral Daala

Armed and Operational (plus sub-set)
Tantive IV Trooper

Shadows (plus sub-set)
Commando Droid Officer
CorellianComedian
Posted: Monday, December 15, 2014 8:20:35 PM
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I like how Captain Panaka made the list twice Flapper I was wondering why you had Captain Panaka of Theed instead of Critdu for RaR, until I looked at his commander effect and remembered those Naboo pilots. I think Critdu is at least a very close second for RaR.

For Jedi Academy, I would think Leia Skywalker, Jedi Knight would be one of the most significant pieces.

For Imperial Entanglements, I would agree that Thrawn is the most significant, but again I think Luke Skywalker, Rebel Commando, is a very close second, as well as General Rieekan.
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Posted: Monday, December 15, 2014 8:25:01 PM
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My vote for Bounty Hunters would be Boba Fett Bounty Hunter, and for Galaxy at War i'd say Cad Bane
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Posted: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:49:36 PM
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CorellianComedian wrote:
I like how Captain Panaka made the list twice Flapper I was wondering why you had Captain Panaka of Theed instead of Critdu for RaR, until I looked at his commander effect and remembered those Naboo pilots. I think Critdu is at least a very close second for RaR.

For Jedi Academy, I would think Leia Skywalker, Jedi Knight would be one of the most significant pieces.

For Imperial Entanglements, I would agree that Thrawn is the most significant, but again I think Luke Skywalker, Rebel Commando, is a very close second, as well as General Rieekan.


Mace would be second or third for me - Atton 'Jaq' Rand is another big one. He's totally a contender for 1st though - he's won a GenCon and seen way more competitive play than Panaka of Theed. List is just my opinion - I certainly wouldn't quibble if someone else went with Mace.

Leia is a good call. She's up there with Anakin Solo and the Battlemaster.

Imperial Entanglements has a ton of good options. Mouse Droid, General Crix Madine, and Dash would all win most other sets, as well as the ones you mentioned.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:23:32 AM
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Strongest now, or when the set first came out? As power creep and meta have really shifted over the years. For instance, Vader Sith Lord was a beast back in the day, but now he's just an overpriced meat wall.
TheHutts
Posted: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 1:18:11 AM
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EmporerDragon wrote:
Strongest now, or when the set first came out? As power creep and meta have really shifted over the years. For instance, Vader Sith Lord was a beast back in the day, but now he's just an overpriced meat wall.


I'm thinking more now, but it'd be interesting to see a list from the other perspective. Power creep has affected front line pieces way more than tech IMO - most of the powerful pieces from the old sets are tech.

Cassus fett wrote:
My vote for Bounty Hunters would be Boba Fett Bounty Hunter, and for Galaxy at War i'd say Cad Bane


Cad Bane's a good choice for Galaxy at War - I just think twin for all followers for 20 points is so ridiculous that Whorm wins. Boba is kind of hard to justify at 200 points in the modern game - I've never seen him on the table apart from Epics where he rules. But there aren't many strong choices from Bounty Hunters - it's a weak set IMO, I think the sets with Huges are generally weaker, since Huges often struggle to see table time.
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Valid points. I like the earlier suggestion of Mouse Droid from IE, definitely a contender for strongest.
Mando
Posted: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:03:50 AM
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Good list Hutts! I probably would have put the Lancer above GOWK in The Clone Wars set. The Lancer has had such a long term effect on the game and the meta that its probably in the top 5 of most powerful pieces in the game.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:09:50 AM
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I'm a little surprised the AT-ST, never got any mention! I remember when I first got it upon released
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$&@"! Sorry, anyway I dominated with a pair!
pegolego
Posted: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:40:48 AM
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Pretty good list here. I noticed Mouse Droids didn't make it (though it's VERY tough to argue with ol' Thrawn, of course lol), and one could probably make an argument for Mas over Doombot, being as how he is a very useful piece to this day in two factions, and makes Thrawn and Panaka (who both made the list) MUCH better. Though, again, you could argue that he's not all that useful with Mouse Droids, just easier, and Mice couldn't quite make the list behind Thrawn either lol.
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pegolego wrote:
Pretty good list here. I noticed Mouse Droids didn't make it (though it's VERY tough to argue with ol' Thrawn, of course lol), and one could probably make an argument for Mas over Doombot, being as how he is a very useful piece to this day in two factions, and makes Thrawn and Panaka (who both made the list) MUCH better. Though, again, you could argue that he's not all that useful with Mouse Droids, just easier, and Mice couldn't quite make the list behind Thrawn either lol.


Mas is in Champions of the Force, so he's up against Ugnaughts - could definitely go either way on that.

Mando wrote:
Good list Hutts! I probably would have put the Lancer above GOWK in The Clone Wars set. The Lancer has had such a long term effect on the game and the meta that its probably in the top 5 of most powerful pieces in the game.


Yeah, that's definitely justifiable - definitely one of the harder choices. Two very significant pieces in the same set - and GGDAC, Yobuck, Gha Nachkt, and IG-86 are all pretty big as well.
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Whoops, my bad lol. I always seem to think he's RotS for some reason. Yeah, I'd say the Uggies are definitely more useful -- for ALL factions lol.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:15:09 PM
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Mando wrote:
Good list Hutts! I probably would have put the Lancer above GOWK in The Clone Wars set. The Lancer has had such a long term effect on the game and the meta that its probably in the top 5 of most powerful pieces in the game.


But GOWK has also had a long term impact on how pieces are designed, on banning, errata, the meta etc. Its a toss up, but personally I'd still say GOWK
thereisnotry
Posted: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 2:30:47 PM
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I think it might be more accurate to give a Top 3 or a Top 5 of each set. For some sets, you could list one mini and then nothing after it, since nothing else in the set would really be worth listing.

Don't forget Kelborn in Galactic Heroes...he single-handedly revolutionized the entire Mando faction and was a huge part of them winning the Champs this year.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:17:14 PM
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OK TINT, here's an expanded list with up to 5 per set (6 for Clone Wars, as I found it hard to shut one out).

Rebel Storm
Grand Moff Tarkin

Clone Strike
Darth Sidious
Battle Droid Officer

Revenge of the Sith
R2-D2 Astromech Droid
San Hill
Mon Mothma

Universe
Lobot
Grand Admiral Thrawn
Nom Anor

Champions of the Force
Ugnaught Demolitionist
Mas Amedda

Bounty Hunters
Lord Vader

Alliance and Empire
Princess Leia
Mara Jade, Jedi
Jabba, Crime Lord
*This is the first set with a big density of still competitive pieces - lots of other good choices around.

The Force Unleashed
Admiral Ozzel
Muun Tactics Broker (forgot this yesterday - could justifiably come in ahead of Ozzel)
Caamasi Noble
Amanin Scout
Juno Eclipse

Legacy of the Force
General Dodonna
Elite Rebel Commando
Han Solo, Galactic Hero
Bothan Noble

Knights of the Old Republic
Captain Panaka
Captain Tarpals
Jarael
Mandalorian Scout
Mandalorian Captain

The Clone Wars (plus starter packs etc)
General Obi-Wan Kenobi
IG Lancer Droid
Yoda on Kybuck
GGDAC
Gha Nachkt
IG-86

Imperial Entanglements
Thrawn (Mitth'raw'nuruodo)
Mouse Droid
Luke Skywalker, Rebel Commando
General Rieekan
Dash Rendar, Renegade Smuggler

Jedi Academy
Anakin Solo

Galaxy At War
General Whorm Loathsom
R7 Astromech Droid
Cad Bane
General Skywalker
Admiral Yularen

The Dark Times
Rodian Brute

Masters of the Force
Ganner Rhysode
Rodian Diplomat

Destiny of the Force
Bastila Shan, Jedi Master
Poggle the Lesser
Admiral Pellaeon
Yammosk War Coordinator
Old Republic Senator

Renegades and Rogues (plus sub-set)
Captain Panaka of Theed
Mace LotLS
Atton "Jaq" Rand
Naboo Pilot
Celeste Morne

Vengeance (plus sub-set)
Momaw Nadon
Dr. Evazan, Galactic Criminal
* lots of really good stuff in this set, but nothing else that quite fits the list for me.

Scum and Villainy (plus sub-set)
Klatooinian Assassin
Mandalore the Vindicated
BX Commando Droid Spotter
Satele Shan
IG-88A

Galactic Heroes (plus sub-set)
Darth Caedus, Sith Lord
Kelborn
Luke Skywalker, Galactic Hero
Cad Bane, Bounty Hunter
Jan Ors

Command of the Galaxy (plus sub-set)
Admiral Daala
Talon Karrde, Information Broker
Warrior Caste Subcommander
Durge on Speeder
Luke Skywalker, Hero of Endor

Armed and Operational (plus sub-set)
Tantive IV Trooper
Zenoc Quah
Buzz Droid
Mandalorian Demolitionist

Shadows (plus sub-set)
Commando Droid Officer
Neo-Crusader Officer
Boba Fett, Assassin for Hire
Emperor Palpatine, Reborn*
Arfan Ramos*

*Not sure how these two are going to shake out, but I think they have potential.
thereisnotry
Posted: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:19:32 PM
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BAM! Now THAT is the who's-who list of SWM!

I think you've probably listed most of the top-tier pieces in the game. As I scan through it, I don't disagree with any of the choices, and nothing really comes to mind that I think you've missed. Cool stuff, Graham!
TheHutts
Posted: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:32:48 PM
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thereisnotry wrote:
BAM! Now THAT is the who's-who list of SWM!

I think you've probably listed most of the top-tier pieces in the game. As I scan through it, I don't disagree with any of the choices, and nothing really comes to mind that I think you've missed. Cool stuff, Graham!


Thank you! I do think it comes down to opinion in some of the v-sets where there are a lot of strong choices - I picked Jan Ors for the 5th slot in Galactic Heroes, and it's justifiable given that the Kyle/Jan Ors combo has seen plenty of play, but so have Quorreal, Aurra Sing, Malgus, and a few other choices.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:48:59 PM
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Love the new list. Still think theres something else from bounty hunters that could be included, maybe the Bith Vigo?
TheHutts
Posted: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:02:21 PM
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Cassus fett wrote:
Love the new list. Still think theres something else from bounty hunters that could be included, maybe the Bith Vigo?


Princess Leia, Hoth Commander made effectively made the top 8 at GenCon this year.
Garindan might be a legit choice too.

Seems like a pretty weak set overall though - not surprising when it has huges.
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