Basically no Vong or New Republic, no original Mandalorians or Skirita's Mandos and generally anyone not in the 6 movies or clone wars show is now a big question mark... Darn disney

Apologies to break it up over a couple of posts... there's a lot to unpack.

The Yuzhan Vong are something else entirely.
Once you read Vector Prime, you can't unread it.
Although, it never happened, a moon falls on and presumably kills Chewbacca...
I had always thought that "death by furball",
or aneurism (frustration with lifedebt to Han),
or exploding in a Millennium Falcon crash would be more likely.

Jumping the shark so early in an arc,
and tying the arc to the pre-Ep II novel "Rogue Planet"
From day 1, Yuuzhan Vong never existed...
But, it was also the 'beyond episode 6" factor.
As children, so many would say "they're going to make a Star Wars 4" or a Star Wars 7 when the episodes were re-numbered...
now, both have happened. Also as kids, people would reply - "star wars infinity plus 1!"

Only Dark Forces and Jedi Knight, Jedi Academy series
and some comics exist beyond Episode 6 in my personal cannon.
Mara Jade and Luke *never* get together. Stockholm syndrome be darned - Mara Jade was a strong female character up until that point. Though, Joruus C'Boath and that business on Wayland happen.
Some infighting still happens, but it takes 30 odd years for the characters to resolve the civil war... its a bitter conflict among the Moff-warlords, and Fringe and fledgling New Republic
its pretty much smooth sailing from then till the thermal heat-death ("big fade" via thermodynamic entropy) of their galaxy, far far away.

Personally, about Star Wars Ep 7?
for me, JJWars Never happened. I don't care so much about special effects, I know it will be a lens-flare seizure-fest, with none of the story.
Disney owning Star Wars? That's only a partnership at Disneyland or 2D animated stuff -not live action.

What's canon now are the (currently) 6 movies, the Clone Wars Movie, the Clone Wars TV series, and Rebels. Everything else was annihilated including the ewok movies and the holiday special.

So, for SWM that would leave...:

To note, for generic units, I'm going by if they are seen in the movies/show or not. If the character is based off of RPG materials, drawings, etc. , they'd be de-canonilized.

Rebel Storm:
Remove Bothan Spy, Mara Jade, Twi'lek Bodyguard

Clone Strike"
Remove Jedi Guardian, Dark Side Acolyte, & Durge.

RotS"
Remove Separatist Commando, Chagrian Mercenary Commander, Devaronian Soldier, Human Mercenary, Iktotchi Tech Specialist, Nautolan Soldier, Yuzzem, Zabrak Fringer, Dark Side Adept.

Universe:
Remove Dash Rendar, Guri, Prince Xizor, Rodian Black Sun Vigo, Vornskr, X-1 Viper Droid, Baron Fel, Dark Side Marauder, Dark Trooper Phase III, Grand Admiral Thrawn, Nightsister Sith Witch, Noghri, All New Republic and Vong

Champions of the Force:
Remove all Old Republic, Sith, New Republic. Remove Boss, Fixer, Sev, Scorch, Coruscant Guard, Dark Trooper Phase I, Dark Trooper Phase II, Gundark, HK-47.

Bounty Hunters:
Remove Talon Karrde, Bith Black Sun Vigo, Calo Nord, Corellian Pirate, Dark Hellion Marauder on Swoop Bike, Dark Hellion Swoop Gang Member, E522 Assassin Droid, Human Blaster-for-hire, Komari Vosa, Mistryl Shadow Guard, Nym, Rodian Hunt Master, All Mandalorians

Alliance and Empire:
Remove Ithorian Commander, Rebel Leader, Twi'lek Rebel Agent, Storm Commando, Stormtrooper on Repulsor Sled, Mara Jade, Human Force Adept, Rodian Scoundrel, Trandoshan Mercenary, All Yuuzhan Vong.

Force Unleashed:
Remove Darth Revan, Kazdan Paratus, Shaak Ti, Juno Eclipse, Master Kota, Vader's Apprentice Redeemed, Verpine Tech, Dark Trooper, Emperor's Shadow Guard, Evo Trooper, Felucian Stormtrooper Officer, Gotal Imperial Assassin, TIE Crawler, Vader's Apprentice Unleashed, Wookiee Hunter AT-ST, Garm Bel Iblis, Caamasi Noble, Felucian Warrior on Rancor, Junk Golem, Knobby White Spider, Maris Brood, Muun Tactics Broker, PROXY, Telosian Tank Droid, Uggernaut

Legacy of the Force:
Keep Darth Tyranus, General Dodonna, Rebel Honor Guard, Imperial Pilot, Imperial Security Officer, Boba Fett Mercenary Commander

KOTOR:
Remove All Old Republic, New Republic, Sith, and Mandalorians. Remove all Fringe except ASN Assassin Droid, Jawa Scout & Tusken Raider Scout

Clone Wars (First Sith that can be kept, yay!):
Remove Anakin Skywalker Champion of Nelvaan, Mon Calimari Knight, Yoda on Kybuck, Chameleon Droid, Durge, Quarren Isolationist, Aqualish Warrior, Human Soldier of Fortune, Nelvaanian Warrior, Trandoshan Scavenger

Clone Wars Battles:
Remove Roron Corobb, IG Lancer Droid

Imperial Entanglements:
Remove Bothan Commando, Aricia, 181st Imperial Pilot, Thrawn, Kyp Durron, Chiss Mercenary, Dash Rendar, Twi'lek Black Sun Vigo, Xizor

Jedi Academy:
Keep Darth Sidious, Grand Master Yoda, Heavy Clone Trooper, Youngling, Rocket Battle Droid, Stormtrooper, R4 Astromech Droid

Galaxy at War:
Remove nobody. Set's fully canon.

Dark Times:
Remove all Rebels except Chewbacca. Remove Jedi Watchman, Elite Sith Assassin, A'Sharad Hett, K'Kruhk, EG-05 Jedi Hunter Droid, Emperor's Hand, Imperial Inquisitor, Imperial Sovereign Protector, Kir Kanos, Bomo Greenbark, Gungan Bounty Hunter, Rodian Brute, Rodian Raider, Togorian Soldier, Trandoshan Elite Mercenary, Trianii Scout, T'Surr, Mandalorian Jedi Hunter.

Masters of the Force:
Remove all Old Republic, Sith, New Republic, Yuuzhan Vong, and Mandalorians. Remove Voolvif Monn, Red Hand Trooper, Arden Lyn, Blood Carver Assassin, Chiss Trooper, Grievous.

Destiny of the Force:
Keep Anakin & Padme on Reek, Ki-Adi-Mundi, Battle Droid Lieutenant, OOM-9, Poggle the Lesser, Rebel Commando Munitions Expert, Wedge's Snowspeeder, Elite Scout Trooper, Scout Trooper Officer, Han Solo, Jawa Chief, Jodo Kast, Nikto Pirate, Salacious Crumb, Tusken Raider Chieftain

Renegades and Rogues:
Keep Mace Windu, Royal Handmaiden, Count Dooku, T-Series Tactical Droid, Jon "Dutch" Vander, Luke Skywalker in Stormtrooper Armor, Darth Vader, Stormtrooper Advance Scout.

Battle of Theed:
Remove nobody. Set's fully canon.

Vengance:
Keep Eeth Koth, Dwarf Spider Droid, Elite Commando Droid, Savage Oppress, Jek Porkins, Death Watch Mercenary, Death Watch Saboteur, Pre Vizla

Cantina Brawl:
Remove nobody. Set's fully canon.

Scum and Villany:
Keep Padme, Commando Droid Sniper, Commando Droid Spotter, Grievous, Chewbacca and Ewoks in AT-ST, Han Solo, Master Yoda, Leia, Veteran Rebel Trooper, Boba Fett, Embo, Ewok Chieftain, Jabba, Jango Fett, Zam Wesell

Jedi vs. Sith:
Keep Anakin, Obi-Wan.

Galactic Heroes:
Keep Boss Nass, Tarrful, Colman Trebor, Elite Wookiee Warrior, Elite Gungan Infantry, Aurra Sing, Cad Bane, Muun Guard Colonel, Parwan Bounty Hunter, Lando, Watto

The Old Republic:
Remove everything. Nothing is canon

Command of the Galaxy:
Keep Aayla Secura, Cin Drallig, Clone Trooper with Flamethrower, Asajj Ventress, Darth Sidious, Neimoidian Trooper, Techno Union Combat Engineer, Biggs Darklighter, Luke Skywalker, Bren Durlin, Admiral Motti, Captain Needa, Darth Vader, Snowtrooper Officer, Veteran Snowtrooper, Bespin Guard Captain, Bespin Security Guard, Todo 360, Zygerrian Slaver

Vehicles of War:
Remove Beast Rider on Drexel, Durge on Speeder, Tsik-Vai

Armed and Operational:
Keep Commander Fox, Coruscant Guard Clone Trooper, Oppo Rancis, Pong Krell, Geonosian Elite Soldier, Geonosian Soldier with Sonic Cannon, Shu Mai, Luke Skywalker, Golden One, Tantive IV trooper, Elite Snowtrooper with E-Web Blaster, Major General Veers, Barriss Offee, Buzz Droid, Chief Chirpa, LIN Demolitionmech, Owen and Beru Lars, Sarlacc, Shmi Skywalker, Young Anakin Skywalker, Death Watch Overlord.

Invasion:
Remove everything. Nothing is canon.

Shadows:
Keep Mace Windu, Trench, Commando Droid Officer, Grievous's Bodyguard Droid, Magnaguard Officer, Chewie, Rebel Scout on Tauntaun, Snowspeeder Pilot, Wedge Antilles, Stormtrooper Sniper, Boba Fett, Jawa Clan Leader

Undying:
Keep Cody.

Warfare and Subterfuge:
Keep Adi Gallia, Jocasta Nu, Yarael Poof, Dr. Nuvo Vindi, IT-0 Interrogator Droid, Ewok with Catapult, One-Arm, Sebulba, Teebo, Death Watch Berserker, Obi-Wan Honorary Mandalorian

Diplomacy:
Remove Leia, Dooje Brolo

+1

This and the Thrawn trilogy indeed cannot be unerased from the Nader archives, not even a Jedi can do this.

For a very long period all we as fans had were these novels to fuel our love of the original trilogy and now that George sold out to "The Mouse" we have to swallow their new reality. Well for me personally that isn't sitting too well, to quote James T Kirk, "I don't like mysteries, they give me a belly ache and I've got a beauty right now."

Sorry to cross franchises but that sums up where I'm at with SW right now. I will see the movie and see what their course correction brings us but I'm not going to be mind tricked by Han telling Chewie their home.

Agree completely that the EU still is true. There is so much source material and so much that I read. Amazing stories of Republic Commandos, Jacen solo, the Vong and Thrawn. I also have to point out that the clone wars is cannon so darth bane and delta squad commandos are all cannon.

Completely agree with both of you here. I'll also add that since Disney is not going to touch any of the OR or old sith stuff for a long time, (probably) it can all still be considered true for now. I just hope that SWM doesn't decide to 'get rid of' past characters to fit in with the new canon.

I think this original point sort of got sidetracked next to people opinions on what Star Wars really is.

It's a cool idea for a fun format. I like doing tournaments with alternate rules, and I've thought about this before too.

I think what is key, is that you either have to have a list made beforehand (like the one EmperorDragon made above), or just be really relaxed about it and whatever people bring is fine.

I think people could get lost in arguing over what is on the list or not. If you do make a list, just say those are the only legal pieces for that tournament, even if some are missing.


It would be cool just for fun to see an official list of cannon minis (EmperorDragon's is a great start, but I think there's a few I would quibble with and several missing. But that's being anal retentive - I get the impression it was just a fairly good first comb through, and not a finalized list)

Mara will always be cannon. Even if it's just Mara Weeks.

Seriously though it sucks that a lot of the EU is gone but I'm glad they are actually changing some of it. Anything post Thrawn trilogy is pretty suspect, anything having to do with Vong can be gone and I won't miss it at all. As far as how this will effect our game, I see no reason to change up too much about how we've been doing stuff. If people still like and want new characters from the old EU then we will still do stats for them. We will probably also do stats for the new stuff (who is that black Stormtrooper?! I have to know!!). So this probably won't effect us here.

As I told my wife losing the EU sucks, but it's not gone as long as we find a way to remember it. I think that's Star Trek but it works.

The real question is why is nobody helping these characters get out of that cannon. That's dangerous.

I get pendantic about canon/cannon.

And faction/fraction.