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Deathwielded
Posted: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 4:09:19 AM
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Deaths_Baine wrote:
heres something I found:

The exact number of Jedi who survived the Purge is uncertain, since Expanded Universe material featuring survivors of Order 66 is still being produced. Wookieepedia lists 105 confirmed survivors as of 1 BBY, just before A New Hope. This number is misleading in part because it includes former Jedi who had left the Jedi Order before the time of the Purge. However, even when one eliminates survivors who were exiled, fell to the dark side, or otherwise no longer identified as Jedi, the number of survivors is just under 80.


Interesting I will have to check that out...
leshippy
Posted: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 7:57:04 AM
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read a New Dawn to find out more about Kanan. There they talk about him being a padawn when order 66 is executed. Which brings up a whole new dialogue. I don't think Hera, the Twilek is a a Jedi.

As far as the stormtroopers being bad shots, you have to realize that not all storm troopers are created equal. At this point in time i think only 1/3 of the army was made of Jango's DNA and went through training on Kamino. The rest were done in other facilities that speed the process up to have a fully adult clone in a year. Wookiepedia talks about those one year clones being not nearly as good as the Jango Clones.

All this might make a good mini set me thinks.
darthwhovian
Posted: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:17:06 AM
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Agreed! That would be good! As far as the stormtrooper accuracy, have you seen a new hope, they were always bad shots! I liked the first show, mostly towards the end, i think this show has potential! My only worry is no Vader appearing in the future and my fav Imp, Tarkin! I'll have to wait and see!
AndyHatton
Posted: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:48:33 AM
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Here has always been my theory on Stormtrooper accuracy. The Empire has been running the galaxy on fear and intimidation for so long that most stormtroopers don't ever see any action so they are just real rusty/never were good shots to being with and have had no practice. Or they are all Tag and Bink.
thereisnotry
Posted: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 9:51:09 AM
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I watched the first 2 episodes on YouTube last night. Honestly, I think they make for a much better start than the first episodes of the Clone Wars (Yoda and some clones showing off for King Kitoonko, or whatever his name was, etc). I'm looking forward to the next few episodes.

Also, I think the main characters (esp Kanan) will make for some really cool V-Set pieces, that's for sure.
Lord_Ball
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darthwhovian wrote:
As far as the stormtrooper accuracy, have you seen a new hope, they were always bad shots!


I did and they were pretty good at being established threats the way they took out those rebel troopers and then one shot stunned Princess Leia, making Obi-wans statement at the time a credible one... what it all boils down to for me is that the Imps were portrayed as bungling idiots much like the Separatist droids of the CW and not a very threatening enemy of the galaxy at a time when they really should be, and that = disappointed.
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Lord_Ball wrote:
darthwhovian wrote:
As far as the stormtrooper accuracy, have you seen a new hope, they were always bad shots!


I did and they were pretty good at being established threats the way they took out those rebel troopers and then one shot stunned Princess Leia, making Obi-wans statement at the time a credible one... what it all boils down to for me is that the Imps were portrayed as bungling idiots much like the Separatist droids of the CW and not a very threatening enemy of the galaxy at a time when they really should be, and that = disappointed.


Something to keep in mind tho is that those stormtroopers at the begining of A New Hope were aboard Vader's ship and thus were under Vader's command. Vader usually had the best stormtroopers with him and thus they teared up the Tantive 4 and slaughtered the rebel troopers like nothing because they were well trained storm troopers. Leia took out one of them, but they captured her. Now my theory is that Tthe stormtroopers on board the Death star probably never saw any combat and were your run of the mill troopers and so they were more horrible shots. So in A New Hope you saw 2 different types of troopers. The elite ones under Vader and the ones that clunk their heads on doorways on the death star.
Lord_Ball
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Mando wrote:
Lord_Ball wrote:
darthwhovian wrote:
As far as the stormtrooper accuracy, have you seen a new hope, they were always bad shots!


I did and they were pretty good at being established threats the way they took out those rebel troopers and then one shot stunned Princess Leia, making Obi-wans statement at the time a credible one... what it all boils down to for me is that the Imps were portrayed as bungling idiots much like the Separatist droids of the CW and not a very threatening enemy of the galaxy at a time when they really should be, and that = disappointed.


Something to keep in mind tho is that those stormtroopers at the begining of A New Hope were aboard Vader's ship and thus were under Vader's command. Vader usually had the best stormtroopers with him and thus they teared up the Tantive 4 and slaughtered the rebel troopers like nothing because they were well trained storm troopers.


That may be, but my point stands that during the time period of Rebels the Imperials are supposed to be a massive threat, and the series just hasn't done a very good job establishing that (here's hoping in the future they do).
Also, why would you have a squad of very low level troopers handling a cargo shipment of blasters in the middle of a busy city. The security detail around that shipment would be fine if it was a setup like the gozanti cruiser later in the episode, but since it wasn't it remains disappointing... fun, but disappointing.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 1:10:36 PM
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The Death Star Stormtroopers let the Rebels escape. That was the plan all along - let the Falcon escape and track them so they could destroy the whole Rebellion. So the Stormtroopers were under orders to miss.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 1:36:37 PM
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If only the designers were on top of things, they would be designing pieces for an upcoming set specifically based on this show directly.

But even if they were, they wouldn't be released for a while. . .
UrbanShmi
Posted: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 3:25:34 PM
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TimmerB123 wrote:
If only the designers were on top of things, they would be designing pieces for an upcoming set specifically based on this show directly.

But even if they were, they wouldn't be released for a while. . .


I have no idea what you're talking about, Tim...Flapper
SignerJ
Posted: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 3:50:03 PM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
The Death Star Stormtroopers let the Rebels escape. That was the plan all along - let the Falcon escape and track them so they could destroy the whole Rebellion. So the Stormtroopers were under orders to miss.


*cough* *cough*
FlyingArrow
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But, yeah, got no explanation for what happened on Endor...
Deathwielded
Posted: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 7:48:26 PM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
But, yeah, got no explanation for what happened on Endor...

Ewoks are crazy dangerous and need far better representation in minis.Cursing

Remember they almost 'sacrificed' the Rebel A-team when they first came. The Rebels should have kept some on as Ewok Commandos.LOL


Really the 501st or Vaders fist were victim to George Lucas' idea that he wanted the stormtroopers to be defeated in the 'final' battle. Originally the Ewoks were supposed to be Wookiees, but that got changed. Now a Planet full of Wookiees would make more sense as to why the imps lost.
Deathwielded
Posted: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 8:04:27 PM
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Anyways in a new Hope Vader (or some Imperial commander, probably Tarkin as he was holding Vaders lease at the time)
ordered the stormtroopers to allow them to escape in order to find the elusive rebel base. If that wasn't the case then why would the Imps bug the Millennium Falcon? Thats how they found Yavin if you recall.


The imperial military standard weren't incredibly high to be sure. Time of (relative) peace and they had the Saarti Clones and regular recruits in the military. As well as many of the Imps best left and became rebels.

But the incompetence in the TV show Rebels was truly laughable. Kid steals Com, no prob, but he made a call that that specter (main square) was in danger and a code red. So you would imagine the Imps in the Main Sector would have reported it as a false alarm immediately as they should have heard that transmission too. (Helpful glaring inconsistencies are very helpful)

In the Clone wars series I could understand Jedi and a Strike team pulling off crazy stuff like boarding an enemy capital ship, blasting it up and escaping. But a bunch of rebels? Yeah with one jedi, but are we supposed to find the kind of stuff they do as anything like realistic?
I could understand Kannon dodging bolts as he had Jedi Training.
Deathwielded
Posted: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 8:06:59 PM
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Anyways I think it might be fun to do some customs of the Rebel crew. I think we will need some more episodes out to see what all the can do, but I can imagine a Ezra with Force Leap, Jolt and maybe a stealing ability?

What do you guys think? Would a Custom Character Contest be cool? Maybe best mini set about Rebels from the show?Cool
leshippy
Posted: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 8:20:16 AM
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that would be cool to see.
thereisnotry
Posted: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 8:27:09 AM
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Deathwielded wrote:
Anyways I think it might be fun to do some customs of the Rebel crew. I think we will need some more episodes out to see what all the can do, but I can imagine a Ezra with Force Leap, Jolt and maybe a stealing ability?

What do you guys think? Would a Custom Character Contest be cool? Maybe best mini set about Rebels from the show?Cool

Did you see episode 2 where he does a Force Push? Here's my initial take:

Ezra
Fringe
14 pts

HP 30
Def 17
Att +7
10 dmg

Special Abilities
Unique
Jolt
Evade

Force Powers
Force 2
Force Leap
Defensive Push 2 (Force 2: Usable only if an ally within 3 squares is at half HP or less and is declared as the target of an attack; range 6, 20 damage to the attacker and push the attacker back 2 squares if huge or smaller)


Obviously this is just a mock-up after watching only 2 episodes, so it's probably not anything worth getting worked up about. This is just what popped into my head after watching. I tried to base the Defensive Push 2 off of that scene where his buddy is about to get killed by the Imperial guy, and then Ezra suddenly (and without being aware of it) force pushes the Imperial guy away, and in so doing saves his friend.
Deathwielded
Posted: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:44:22 AM
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leshippy wrote:
that would be cool to see.


Thanks, it would a specail edition/continuation of the CCC (Custom Character Contest) Me and a bunch a guys held for 40 or so weeks.
Deathwielded
Posted: Wednesday, October 8, 2014 9:47:03 AM
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thereisnotry wrote:
Deathwielded wrote:
Anyways I think it might be fun to do some customs of the Rebel crew. I think we will need some more episodes out to see what all the can do, but I can imagine a Ezra with Force Leap, Jolt and maybe a stealing ability?

What do you guys think? Would a Custom Character Contest be cool? Maybe best mini set about Rebels from the show?Cool

Did you see episode 2 where he does a Force Push? Here's my initial take:

Ezra
Fringe
14 pts

HP 30
Def 17
Att +7
10 dmg

Special Abilities
Unique
Jolt
Evade

Force Powers
Force 2
Force Leap
Defensive Push 2 (Force 2: Usable only if an ally within 3 squares is at half HP or less and is declared as the target of an attack; range 6, 20 damage to the attacker and push the attacker back 2 squares if huge or smaller)


Obviously this is just a mock-up after watching only 2 episodes, so it's probably not anything worth getting worked up about. This is just what popped into my head after watching. I tried to base the Defensive Push 2 off of that scene where his buddy is about to get killed by the Imperial guy, and then Ezra suddenly (and without being aware of it) force pushes the Imperial guy away, and in so doing saves his friend.


I thought I say the second episode, as 1 and 2 were both together. Second part on Kessel saving the wookiees right? If so I missed it. Unleas you mean episode 3 with ther droids, which I havn't seen yet.

Anyway I like those stats, lower attack since he is just a kid, but Evade as a reason why he never gets hit. (nod to some of our complaints Wink ) Maybe Force Ascetic too so he can't re-roll evade?
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