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Tier 1: After Vset 8 Options
DarkDracul
Posted: Thursday, January 15, 2015 4:08:12 PM
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OR: Arfan Ramos with Green Jedi squad could have been Tier 1.5ish
OR Trooper squad with Arkanian Jedi General could now be Tier 1. (now that Daala is downgraded)
My 10th place Gencon 2014 OR Antarian Ranger squad was mutated from an OR trooper squad.
I could see an updated Thon Squad with Covenant Executor being Teir 1.5. Bronson did well with Thon in regionals.
Bastila with Pilots is Tier 2 IMHO. It’s always been a good squad but has never consistently excelled.

Sith: Cool new v-set characters but no "new squad".
I don’t think there's a Tier 1 Sith squad. We have a few Sith squads verging on Teir 1.5
Revan+Exar and Lord Krayt squads like the ones Ben has played have also done well..
But Revan + Kaan and Malgus, Caedus, Vergere are all Teir 2 IMHO.

Republic: Republic Commandos - new with Vset 8 became a new Teir 1 squad.
Naboo soldiers is Tier 1 (it’s a stupidly powerful squad)
Gungans or Black Sun with Captain Tarpels Tier 1.5 at least

These squads are no longer Tier 1 IMHO maybe Tier 1.5
GOWK+Mace
Skybuck - WotC era

Separatist: GGDAC + IG-86s +...Commando Droid Officers - new with Vset8 - Tier 1.
Durge on Speeder - Tier 1

These are Tier 1.5
Poggle + a bunch of Drones
Cad Bane, Bounty Hunter
Aurra Sing, Assassin (with Cad)
Asajj Ventress, Nightsister (with Cad)
100pt Dooku
Commando Droid Sniper + Spotter
Quinlan Vos, Double Agent
Grievous, HoH

I'm not sure Lancer this is Tier 1 anymore. Perhaps Tier 1.5
Lancer (or two) + Sidious - from WotC era

Imperial: Cool new characters like Palpatine Reborn but no “new squads”
These are still the Imperial Tier 1
Daala (multiple versions)
Thrawn swap (multiple versions)

Rebel: New Cool characters like Chewie but no “new squads”
Unkillable Survivalists - Tier 1
Tantives - Tier 1
Siblings on Speeder - Tier 1.5
Smug Commandos - WotC era - Tier 1.5

New Republic: Nothing really New for New Republic
Solo Charge - WotC era
Kyle/Jan
Luke's Art Class

Fringe: I think shout outs to Boba fett assassin for hire and new Mira of Nar shaddaa should go out here.
Talon Karrde + Embo
Talon Karrde + Klats
Talon Karrde + (many other variants)

Mandalorian: Neo Officer Cannons - new with Vset 8 This is the Top Dog here IMHO.
Cloaked + Vindicated (GenCon winner)

Vong: Emergence of a Domain Lah squad with warrior and subalternant. - potentially Tier 1.5
These guys have a lot of tools; Speed 8, Twin, Crab armor 11, force immunity, and they are just plain evil.
Blast Bug swarm (the cheater face squad) - Tier 1
Spitting Nom Bombs - Tier 1.5
FlyingArrow
Posted: Thursday, January 15, 2015 5:50:21 PM
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Great post, DarkDracul.

I think Sith and New Republic are probably the two factions that have been left behind the most - reliance on big force users. OR does too, but Bastila cancels CEs, which helps a ton. And Republic sometimes does, but with Yobuck and Naboo and etc... they have multiple options. Ysalamiri and swarms (and combined) spell bad news for Sith and NR. The rise of competitive Vong (who I think are better than either Sith or NR right now) makes it even worse for them.
Weeks
Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2015 5:27:23 AM
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Solo Charge is far from gone. With Mandalorians on the rise that squad keeps the whole faction in check. Any big cannon piece gets killed by Mara, techy commanders get taken out by Han's accurate, clean up by Anakin. Even the cloaked version I was running would have a lot of trouble with a well ran Solo Charge.
DarkDracul
Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2015 9:56:56 AM
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Weeks wrote:
Solo Charge is far from gone. With Mandalorians on the rise that squad keeps the whole faction in check. Any big cannon piece gets killed by Mara, techy commanders get taken out by Han's accurate, clean up by Anakin. Even the cloaked version I was running would have a lot of trouble with a well ran Solo Charge.


It required a moblie cannon to cut through all the swarmy force immune crap last year. Cannons are looking primed to do well again in 2015. Squads like Solo Charge have answers to cannons but will they be able to handle the rest of the field in 2015? Thrawn may make a comeback and people will still be running Palleon and Talon. Also, Vong may see more play in 2015. All that immunity does not bode well for force powered damage dealing squads. Which is too bad because squads like Solo Charge, Ricky's Art Class and Thon Song were great at handling cannons and high activation swarms. However, the field may be more diverse 2015 and It may just come down to matchups. So maybe we can't rule out everything just yet..
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