... Well played bloomilk... Well played

Good point +1

As for the game, the thing I would like to see most is developing a system for cycling out vsets, possibly similar to how magic the gathering cycles out if standard. We are quickly coming to a place where it is impossible to foresee ever interaction that can be had when creating a new character. This would help play testers, designers, keep the game fresh and help with "balancing" the game, as it were.

Not trying to take away from your discussion bill, I will create a new thread for this type of discussion.

Mod Edit: Removed content that refers to removed content.

This is this thread one and only warning. Engage in personal attacks again, you will be taking a break.

holy junk, this amount of protection for Bill is astounding and ridiculous. I hereby formally declare that you moderator are biased. How many "legacy" people are you going to suspend/ban before you discuss the rude behavior of Bill?

He formally called out and insulted bronson publicly without any sort of reprimand. Deathsbaine gets banned for posting a thread that you kept closing after not even deleting Bill's insulting comments. Now he is being rude and i insult him and am being given the treatment?

Like I said before, treat the problem not stifle the symptoms.

HAHAHAHA! This. +1

Actually it can be 3 factions with Tempo control nerf currently, if you play Roan Lands with Ferus Olin. They are just awesome together! I'd like to see better options in the future for the Mando's, cause the ones currently have 40 and 20 hp....and a Lancer likes them points.

I think Shein could see a couple more uses on base stats, but that one needs to be carefully laid out because it is even better than SSM at defending against shooters. Just straight up Soresu would be great with RDE. After V10 hits, the factions that really need the help the most in getting their melee to survive the shooter meta is the Sith and the Old Republic. The Sith I'd prefer not get any defense abilities that evade damage as that takes away from the factions original flavor (all offense, good hp), but instead of a defense abilities like Dark Armor that would reduce damage, lending them to more tankiness while being aggressive. The Old Republic would do well to get RDE and that would be great with The Jedi Exile, Hero of Onderon who gives out a free use of lightsaber defense once per turn to each person that has it (plus gives it to jedi that don't have it).

totally forgot about Shevu.

So yeah, 4 1/2 total factions.

Also, to add on to my last post, Rebels and NR already have easy access to Evade for their jedi's so they are already in a good spot against shooters. Probably don't need to add more to them to help against the shooter meta.

Wow,
this thread has some excellent concepts - thanks coffeebean, as that might be something to try locally.
In this thread, and others, many who play melee or Force Users, are finding that the metagame 'run the gauntlet' to get to adjacent, is burning up too much force points (or, in the case of Vong or Area of Effect squads, un-avoidable auto-damage), and by turn 2 or 3, just on probability and HPs remaining, is 'gameover' for the squad that has too much melee...

"Too much melee" used to be all the squad melee, but now, "too much melee" is; |if a squad include /any/ melee piece at all, or more than 1 'big beat' with anti-range defense|, and that is why such passions are seen on public display.
Its shoot or be mowed down, and the amount of auto-includes in tournament contexts (or hyper-competitive local context) is becoming annoying - like I'm being 'told what to do' or 'how to play', which might be the site of why people feel 'rub the wrong way'.

@Donnyrides,
well said - and having characters with a lightsaber also function like 'Satchel Charge' would be awesome.
Its something we'll have to try in the local game.
By the same token, as this discussion has periodically come up over the years - I can also understand the appeal of a simple game SWMinis compared to the SWRPG...

@all,
As to the 'conduct' and 'redacting of content'... that is decidedly un-bloomilk like:
both, the poor sportspersonship conduct in discussing the ideas (or making poor choice of phrasing, which some might infer/construe to be 'ad homenim'),
and, redacting people who were reflecting on the content guidelines and past incidents which appeared quite one-sided... that seem a harsh penalty, as though the foot were put down.
Its about a game, that is fun, that is like "Chess +", but for SWMinis

I do not understand why people can't put aside some of where they are coming from,
to recognise that.

"You are a child's plaything" Woody (Tom Hanks) - Toy Story.

Thats the aim of the game, a little fun escapism in an increasingly fraught world.
A game anyone can play, from anywhere in the world.
There'll always be the SWRPG and homerules/ SW40K to play instead.

Short of 'Night of the Long Knives", I can't
stop the internet (recall the IT Crowd, where a black box with a red light was 'The Internet"),
burn the statcards
and physically prevent people from playing Legacy, Vassal, or VSETonly, or NuJJTrekWars Continuity Only (the crossover, is coming...), even if I would want to |which for the record, I doesn't|.
Its great that people play the game... I just reflect on the changing state of sportspersonship, and on how people are playing the game or redesigning meta etc...
|which increasingly shift towards SWRPG, which is ironic, given people's penchant for wanting "Chess-like Simplicity"|

I look forward to seeing even more ideas come fourth here,
and maybe some inspiration to people who make again custom miniatures alongside the custom stats