What Legacy really did was keep WotC's pieces (sans a few annoyances like Mas Ameeda, which gave Republic/Imperial huge advantages in the format, and abilities like Ysalimiri/the Vong faction, which is counter productive to the idea of making Jedi and Sith dominant), then added it's own set, tailor made with the melee-friendly format in mind, while supplementing it temporarily by using a handful of hand-selected pieces from the existing v-sets' (because why not? Just because the direction of the standard game isn't what the Legacy designers were looking for, doesn't mean that they don't like a majority of the work on the v-sets) pieces which would open up more squad types while there were limited Legacy pieces available, without using pieces that, while fine for standard, distract from the ideas opened up in Legacy.

That while also trying to stay away from a lot of power pieces where anyone coming from standard wanting a break from a piece they think is broken or an NPE, such as, say, Mas Ameeda, LotLS or Daala, will not find that particular thing present, thus making the game that much more refreshing to rekindle their love of minis!

I believe the plan was to slowly reduce that number of standard v-set pieces as the amount of Legacy-specific pieces rises, because while I personally like a lot of what the v-sets have done (10 playable factions while keeping every last thing Wizards left us with, good or, at the time, bad, is no small accomplishment!), the Legacy format itself doesn't necessarily work well hand-in-hand with a lot of it, balanced for entirely different formats.

That's not really like set rotation for standard, because while the idea is similar, in the case of the Legacy tournaments, anybody and everybody who wants to play it IS on bloo and doing it through Vassal, so they see right out front 'Ok, these are the 40 pieces from the v-sets that are used, these are the few pieces from WotC that are exceptions, everything else is a go'. Making such changes to standard would obviously be out of the question, just like, I think, set rotation and similar proposals.

It's also a LOT easier to handle errata's for the same reason. So some pieces from Legends have been able to evolve a bit over the release of the last few sets, to better suit their purpose, now that new pieces show a better gauge of power. I know the v-set designers don't have that luxury, I would say it's definitely improved the overall quality of the Legacy format and pieces, but with the v-sets keeping everything, it is very impressive that the game is as good as it is right now; even if not everybody likes it and it does have it's issues like anything, they have done a good enough job that the game IS still very playable (more so than when it was left to us by it's creators) while keeping every old thing available for the standard format.

Yes, the Legacy format is a quite different game from standard. I'm not going to say it's simply better, but I know a lot of people will enjoy the format, it's something different, and I personally prefer it a lot of times. The squads are a lot different, low act melee squads mostly. Some people may like that better. I personally still play standard (though not as often), and get excited when a new v-set releases.

I also feel like set rotation is not the best way to go, however I am also not really fond of errata either. Recently the decision was made to go to smaller sets each time, and with the huge number of characters we already have, I'm wondering if maybe an even smaller set list for each set might be a good idea. I don't know what the specifics of the printing process for our cards entails obviously and due to some issues in that area maybe it wouldn't make sense. However I feel like if the sets were smaller, say only 2 characters per faction with a 5 piece subset then the number of playtests per piece should increase and it also should slow the introduction of new game mechanics that need to be learned which seems to be a complaint for a few in the community. Personally I don't mind the number of characters being designed each set currently, but I can easily see how the argument could be made that smaller sets could and probably should lead to better quality of design and a smaller learning curve for new game mechanics.

I am not in favor of set rotation because like others have mentioned, I like having access to everything. Its why I like SWM, its why I like Vampire The Eternal Struggle as well (among other reasons.)

What if the NEW set size was dropped to a lower number for one or two sets and then you could print updated cards of pieces deemed necessary for errata (I really don't think there are too many, if any) and that fills in the last however many pieces.

I think the biggest appeal of the game is its huge, sprawling mess (I mean mess in a good way). There are 10 different factions, each faction has a bunch of different builds. My friend comes round most weeks and we play a couple of games of minis, and it's really fun. There are so many different builds that are possible, and lots of them are really fun.

It's only really when you go to a tournament that the constraints really appear - for instance, I still think the Durge/Commando Droid Officer/Poggle build that won PA last week and has been doing well in New Zealand is very well rounded and difficult to beat, but that's always the case in a game like this - there are always gate keepers and metas and everything. I would like the competitive meta to come back to Jedi some more, but I can still have lots of fun playing in the meantime - most of the games I play aren't competitive.

I'm also ok with smaller sets with a couple pieces for each faction to keep the game from changing too fast but also to still keep things fresh. I am basically the reference point for my playgroup as to what is good and to help filter through all the new pieces haha

This is a year and a half old, but still largely relevant: http://www.bloomilk.com/Forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=13616&p=2

Definitely need to fit in a few things like Commando Droid Officer, Neo Crusader Officer, Domain Lah Warrior, but I think at least 80% of the list is roughly correct.

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That's a good idea, Kezz. A "beginners guide" with things like the rules, v-set PDFs, etc. is being worked on, but a "beginner strategy guide" is a really good idea too. Split it up by faction and give some examples of squads to start with, then some variations of those squads. If you don't know what to do, you can tart there and get some squad ideas, then when you have those mastered it will be much easier to get into the big ocean of the rest of the game.

I'm not in favour of cycling for reasons listed by others which I agree with. I love having a massive amount of things to play with!

As for set size, when a new set comes out not all the pieces are something I'm interested in, but others love them. I think by maintaining set size we can maintain a variety in our new releases so there's something for everyone

I would love a TC type site were anyone could write articles about this game. I understand we would have problem with people posting stuff that needed a mod for. Would love this type of think.

I think weekly articles and just overall article guides would be great for this game.