I mean regardless of whats done, the problem that im seeing is that its not gonna be on Shinja's #1 thing to do list, as swinefeld somewhat said that if the solution invovles hard work than donations would help that. I mean regardless of how its solved, its still gonna have to be up to a user to do some digging. I think it would have to be way to much work to make an option to where you see complete history & stuff if you click on a name.

So regardless your gonna have to dig into the site & find out the whole situation of the other trader. Which i gotta say Chuckafett did an amazing job with so lets not forget the hard work he has done. & in my opinion i think trading isnt the majority option on the site. Squad building, collection tracker etc. are. So coming up with an easy somewhat solid solution to this is the key. So i say as people are still gonna have to atleast look at that list chuck provided in my opinion is me personally,im gonna try thinking up simple solutions that wouldnt be as much work as a giagantic option with all kinds of neat menu's of different stuff. I think by pushing for something like that than it might take a very very long time to get right rather than to just think up something easy, simple but yet still effective which i think we could see put into action alot quicker. & we have alot of imagination & smarts between all of us on here to where we can think of something like that. Theres alot of intelligant people on this website, so lets do it people.

Also i would like to propose again the idea of having icon's next to the users name whenever you come accrossed there name (I.E. at the bottom on the site page when you see whos on, whenever you see there forum post)... Lol im sorry but i had to say that idea again lol.. i love that idea so im gonna beat you's all to death with it lol..

if a guy has gotten scammed, it should be that persons responsibility to report him, to either the Post Office, or have them put on the BlooMilk wall of shame, then banned.
block any and all other users on the Scammers computer.
when you see someones profile, it shows you all users on that computer. ban them too.
its really easy to make new email addresses so that should be some kind of warning on the BTL, on the Very Top. publicize their address on the BTL, and have them sign off on it in a new users agreement, therefore, they cant sue BlooMilk, which means Chucka and Shinja would not be held accountable.
it will hold those pieces of filth liable in either direction: Busted for a Federal Crime, and/or public knowledge and information of your "Art Form".

One thing to note here is that Bad Traders aren't all that common around here. We've only a few, and most seem to disapear shortly after they are put on the list. So, this isn't a huge problem, unless you're the guy who didn't get his minis of course .
That being said I like the idea of adding something to the site that tracks good and bad trades. The ideas of adding something under our usernames is great, and something Shinja may be willing to do. (He mention something about needing fully integrate the forums with the rest of the site, maybe he could make a change to this at that point). Until then, maybe we can get him to put Bad Trader's usernames in Red on the bottom when they are logged in (a variation of Darth Perc's idea, a fine idea by the way ).

I'll PM Shinja and have him look at this thread, he doesn't spend much time in the trade forum and may not have seen it. Hopefully I'll be traveling to PAX this weekend and I'll have a face to face with him as well!




On your first question, yes it kinda works like that. In the past I've given people an option, after the situation has been resolved, if they would like to put the person on the 90 day list or take them off completely. I don't know if I will be giving people this option anymore because I feel this is part of the problem. Most people are pretty nice and don't want to leave anyone on the BTL at all. We really need to start taking better care of each other and put people on the BTL when they deserve it. I feel that a lot of the issues we had this last time could have been stopped if someone would have just put this guy on the BTL. (This is not only a problem here, but on WOTC as well. Everybody wants to be a nice guy, but sometimes you've got to be the bad guy to help everyone else out).


The face to face trades thing was answered pretty well by Kenred and others. I agree the permanent list may be a bit harsh, but I kind of look at it akin to scamming. A person who posts a face to face trade isn't really telling the rest of us the whole truth.


I know this is getting long, but I want to reiterate what Huk and Swinefeld have said;
Please read the trade rules and don't send first to someone who has a lower rating then you. Even if you're at +5 and he's at a +1, you outrank him and have the right to ask him to send first. If a person refuses, maybe it's not a good idea to trade with them. If you are new, try making 5-10 trades with some of the more experienced traders to build a reputation. Yes, you'll have to send first, but these guys are much less likely to scam you than a guy with a +1. If you feel the need to trade with a guy at +1 and you're low as well, complete a simul-send or a variation of one. Anyway, just my two cents.

you know who got over on, you message them.

It would be nice to believe you, but it's hard to take you seriously when you've claimed on many different occasions you would be "taking care of it," or that you were shipping minis on a certain date, and then done nothing whatsoever. Additionally, your claim about PMs is triply disturbing.

First, the implication is that you feel it's other people's responsibility to make you follow through on trades, when you're perfectly capable of going through your inbox and seeing who you've made what trades with by yourself.

Second, your wording seems to imply that there are people who have indeed gotten things from you. Not one of the six people who posted complaints about you have since claimed they've gotten anything from you, nor have you made any apparent effort to contact them.

Third, your claim that nobody's PMed you is a blatant falsehood. I know that because I have. Incidentally, your response was to claim you weren't aware that we had made a deal, despite the fact that the details of that deal were quite visible simply by scrolling down through the replies in that message.

Here's an idea, on the off chance that this time--unlike every other time--you mean what you're saying: post some delivery confirmation tracking numbers here, so we can see whether you're telling the truth, or whether this is just another stall tactic from you.

im just curious, but have we come to a resolution yet?
have people gotten their minis?

Good to hear....
its never to late to redeem yourself.

go to the BTL, and see the names that have posted about him. PM them to find out.

No, never receive anythings from him yet, possibly another scamming. I really think that we should call the police...