Not really sure I follow you here....what other change to SSM would have the desired effect, but not present some sort of problem like this? If you're worried about AoOs on an Obi, then play Flobi. :P

Melee squads (outside of Gen Skywalker + Yobuck, IMO) are not played all that much, so I see this change as a real benefit in that area. It gives a definitive counter to SSM that was lacking before.



50/50 is awesome though. That's really what we want. If it's truly 50/50, then it isn't a 'dominant team', IMO. I haven't played GenSkywalker/Yobuck enough to say for sure, but if GOWK's return, plus the map changes, help push Speedy Cannon a bit down the list, that's fine with me.

Let me rephrase this. If it is SSM only works on Non Melee attacks than i guess it wouldnt be so bad, this way your able to actually melee brawl with him. It would actually make more melee pieces be brought back into play as to just having a whole team with shooters. So i guess it isnt so bad if its just for non melee. I still think he is way under costed for what he does & his CE is ridiculous, his CE shouldnt be able to be used with booming voice. I think its idiotic to bring him back & not update his pt cost. WOTC is just losing the game & its going down in flames IMO because i think they could care less about it. I think they need to make some players incharge of what rules are set & what figures & characters are made, SA's, & Ce's made instead of these office guys who have no clue as to whats going on in the game of SWM.

They take effect immediately, except for the scoring update in the last section as it apparently requires a software update first.

Im sorry but i have to disagree with you, for the same pt cost i'd rather use GOWK, to boost my whole team even better rather than GMY with his just LST3 & LSD, GOWK alone with Mettle & MOTF2 which is ridiculous enough for his Pt cost. Like can republic just get any more better pieces? When are they gonna update Mando's or Vong back into the meta, they need to stop givin these ridiculous abilities to repubic. Games going down in flames & i deff aint riding shotgun. I think after MOTF set releases & i see whats in it for me is gonna determain wheither i stay in the game or not. & thats my right to feel that way

I will say however it is an improvement on the figure, i still disagree & say they should of left him be banned. But atleast they changed him somewhat.

Ummm, Overwhelming Force is not needed, since it would be going on melee figs anyway. And Yoda is still a more offensive piece w Ataru. And this reinforces my belief that Makashi is just the counter stuff. And Dooku is still able to be more antimelee than Tyrannus. Still, this changes things up, exciting.

LOL, I'm thoroughly confused now...but I think I agree with you, haha. Yes, GOWK is still at a disadvantage, because Flobi can easily escape due to Flight. Thus, Flobi's higher point cost, incidentally, lol.




Umm...GOWK's CE doesn't work with Booming Voice at all. And it's MUCH more limited than GM Yoda's CE. GOWK's CE requires you to always have 2 pieces within 6 squares of each other in order to get the bonus. With GMY and Mas, you could have a JWM all by itself off in a corner, and it would still be getting the +3/+3. I think that's infinitely more useful overall. It's too easy to use Accurate and kill the Mouse Droid/Ugo/cheap fodder near another piece and deny GOWK's CE to somebody.




There is very little difference between GOWK and GMY in terms of 'boosting your whole team'. I can't for the life of me figure out what is such a HUGE difference there to cause this kind of reaction. The difference in point cost between GOWK and GMY is well balanced by the fact that GOWK is more of a defensive piece, and GMY is more offensive.



Nobody GAVE any new ability or anything like that. If anything, this change takes AWAY part of an ability, lol. It inherently makes Mando and Vong MUCH stronger against GOWK and Flobi. Vong in particular. At least before, GOWK/Flobi got to make at least 1 save 11 against a Vong JHs attack. Now they won't even get that.

I guess it just goes to show that you can never please everyone. Ban GOWK, half the people get all up in arms because they banned somebody. Bring him back...people aren't happy with that either. Well, can't have your cake and eat it too...

Why the hell would I want cake if I couldn't eat it??? :-p

I don't want any cake, now if it were pie that's a whole different story. :P

I'm surprised to see GOWK back and don't know how the change will affect the competitive scene until some venues get to try out the change. At least it is something to try.

I like the change for Rigid pieces to give huges a chance to return. Now if huges without flight would gain Stable Footing, I'd be very happy. I don't see any negative effect from the change as stated in the updated rules.

Not a fan of the gambit-scoring piece having to cost at least 5 (like that reinforcements can't score it). Probably not a big issue in the overall scheme of things, but takes the new 3-point Stable Footing Rodian out of any squad-type except swap for the cost options, I think.

I'm not really playing much DCI anymore, so it does not really affect me personally, but I am interested to see what impact these changes have on the tourney scene over the next few months.

The re-addition of GOWK takes away the potency of speedy cannon now. Against Non-GOWK teams it's still the big dog, but against GOWK, it has lost a lot of it's potency. Should make some people happy. Me, I am go with the flow. I liked having GOWK banned, but he won't change my style too much now that he is back either.

Just BFBH from DD.