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Draconarius wrote:Darth Percocet wrote:Nah i would say a little bit higher than 24-25. Wedge is 23 & his is to followers so i would say maybe put him at 27-28, even though he has less HP giving Commanders evade & mobile too is a big deal, makes Dodonna 10x more of a pain etc. I actually think 24-25 is about right. Although he gives out Evade to Commanders, Rieekan can barely fight at all himself. Wedge, on the other hand, is an almost purpose-built fodder sniper. Well, most of my initial choices were already taken, so I'll choose The Jedi Exile. Although she's one of my favourite pieces, for the same cost Malak DLotS is noticeably better, so I'd drop the Exile down to 44 points. Or just replace Double with Twin. That'd even them up. From a character standpoint I don't really agree with the execution but I appreciate the sentiment exactly. Exile never has problems dealing damage when I play her because her deficiencies offensively are sharply reduced in overall when in a squad of good characters to lend her CE to. My issue with Exile is the lack of any kind of defenses. Duelist and a 20 defense is literally all she has. Malak as you pointed out is far better offensively for the same cost. I personally wouldn't recost Exile I would give her Lightsaber Defense.
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If not a total re-vamp, Carth Onasi from 37 to about 20-25. For the limitations he has and only 70 hit points, I would like to see Carth lowered to a playable cost. That extra 17 could be a Jedi conselor! 
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IG-108 wrote:General Grievous, Scourge of the Jedi - bring down from 63 to 50-55. I think he'd be used a little more if he wasn't more expensive than GGDAC.
Super Battle Droid- bring down from 10 points to 7-9 points. Might not make it more playable, but definantly more fairly costed.
IG-88 Bounty Hunter- Bring down from 44 to 30-35 only because his low HP makes him not very usable otherwise. And if you combine him with GGDAC to make him harder to hit, that's 101 points used up. (speaking of which, GGDAC and IG-88 Assassin Droid may make for an awesome Dynamic Duo. Dibs!!))
So yeah, those are at least three out of a bunch of minis I would re-cost. Nice you spoke my mind for me on the Super Battle Droid and Grievou SoTJ. One more I think could use it: Grievous's Wheelbike, down to 40 points, come on the poor guy has poor stats and only one half decent SA. Yet he's one of the most expensive ranged pieces
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Shado Vao down to around 42 from 48. There is really no reason to play him over Kol now.
Wolf Saven down to around 32 from 38. Same thing.
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Weeks wrote:Shado Vao down to around 42 from 48. There is really no reason to play him over Kol now. This, I shall disagree on. You have to spend 41 more points on Wedge and a TBSV to give Kol greater mobile. Shado is the better choice when you aren't using Wedge, which is quite possible with modern New Republic squads. Quote:From a character standpoint I don't really agree with the execution but I appreciate the sentiment exactly. Really? I think she's a very good representation of the Exile. Perhaps not quite as powerful as I would have liked, but the abilities suit the general shape of the Exile at the end of any given KOTOR game.
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Draconarius wrote:Weeks wrote:Shado Vao down to around 42 from 48. There is really no reason to play him over Kol now. This, I shall disagree on. You have to spend 41 more points on Wedge and a TBSV to give Kol greater mobile. Shado is the better choice when you aren't using Wedge, which is quite possible with modern New Republic squads. Quote:From a character standpoint I don't really agree with the execution but I appreciate the sentiment exactly. Really? I think she's a very good representation of the Exile. Perhaps not quite as powerful as I would have liked, but the abilities suit the general shape of the Exile at the end of any given KOTOR game. No I like the mini and the representation I was saying that your want of giving her twin and recosting. All she needs is LS Defense lol.
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Jabba the Hutt to 40 from 50.
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I have 2 minis in my mind.... i would love to recost:
Destroyer Droid from 30 to 20 - it has potencial but his overcost kills it totaly for meta gaming.
Occ. Droid from 31 to 21 - i really love the Mini and i would like to play it, but with 40 HP it is a very expensive fly.
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TK-4334 wrote:I have 2 minis in my mind.... i would love to recost:
Destroyer Droid from 30 to 20 - it has potencial but his overcost kills it totaly for meta gaming.
Occ. Droid from 31 to 21 - i really love the Mini and i would like to play it, but with 40 HP it is a very expensive fly. I agree these are too pricey to play competitively in most cases. Not sure I'd go quite that cheap for the DDs with their shields though.
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The AT-RT from 35 to 25
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swinefeld wrote:TK-4334 wrote:I have 2 minis in my mind.... i would love to recost:
Destroyer Droid from 30 to 20 - it has potencial but his overcost kills it totaly for meta gaming.
Occ. Droid from 31 to 21 - i really love the Mini and i would like to play it, but with 40 HP it is a very expensive fly. I agree these are too pricey to play competitively in most cases. Not sure I'd go quite that cheap for the DDs with their shields though. look at the Sith Assault Droid, he has much more better Stats + Flamethrower for just 6 poinzs more ... seems unfair :) lets us say 24 ??! :)
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Yoda JM I would take to around 50, he definitely isn't worth 64 pts.
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There are so many pieces that are over costed. I agree with most of what people are saying here and I still think most of the fig's be mentioned still wouldn't see play.
To use the example above me, I'm not sure if Yoda, JM would get played at 50 because he still wouldn't be better than Yobuck or GMY. I do like the fig though.
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I would play many of these figures with the suggested recosting. In fact, once the game goes "offline", many in our local group are in favor of recosting figs just for use in unofficial games at our LGS.
There will always be figs that are more efficiently costed than others. But there are also figs that are just horrendously over costed that makes for no reason to play them. I think that lowering a lot of these costs will take pieces from "stupid to play this" to "acceptable to play and still have a chance"
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TK-4334 wrote:
look at the Sith Assault Droid, he has much more better Stats + Flamethrower for just 6 poinzs more ... seems unfair :)
Though keep in mind that the SAD is part of the Sith faction and thus doesn't have access to the level of upgrades that Separatist droids enjoy.
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Some of my first choices, like Revan, have already been mentioned...so I will go with Han Solo, Scoundrel. 46 is a bit high if you compare him to the new Dash Rendar. Agree? I understand why he may be higher, base 20 damage, greater defense and HP, but 18 points? Maybe closer to 36 points? He'd be in every rebel team I do without Rieekan, ha.
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Accurate, access to Princess Leia's CE, and access to Force Spirit all spring to mind. And I really don't see many advocating making him more useful, as the "cannon" squads seem to get an unfair amount of hate.
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Draconarius wrote:Weeks wrote:Shado Vao down to around 42 from 48. There is really no reason to play him over Kol now. This, I shall disagree on. You have to spend 41 more points on Wedge and a TBSV to give Kol greater mobile. Shado is the better choice when you aren't using Wedge, which is quite possible with modern New Republic squads. Well, Wedge is a pretty strong selling point in a NR squad. Plus the extra 30 HPs is a bonus. Sure, Kol doesn't have Deflect or Riposte, but I think Force Push can easily make up for that. For the points, I have a hard time justifying the use of Shado over Kol. In addition, Kol has a higher attack yet he's 10 points cheaper. Shado may have GMA, but he's not going to have a great chance at matching a piece of similar cost. It should also be noted that Wedge and the TBSV can help other characters in your squad (and they are hardly slouches themselves). I just don't see why anyone would use Shado over Kol.
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Mas Amedda. Seriously the dude is only 8 pts? I'd say bump him up to around 12-15. Make him worth the same as a couple mouse droids and it won't seem so bad.
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Sithborg wrote:Accurate, access to Princess Leia's CE, and access to Force Spirit all spring to mind. And I really don't see many advocating making him more useful, as the "cannon" squads seem to get an unfair amount of hate. Good points, I hadn't considered his synergies...I was more referring to stand alone. Dash being Fringe, makes him similarly useful with CEs, so I would still suggest some points coming off of Han.
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