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@ yodaccm , not the greatest comment to make considering several of these poster's are young kids. Might want to keep that in mind next time you post.
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creme_brule wrote:..but twin costs more... Maybe in some cases. Look at Dash Rendar, Renegade Smuggler and Captain Rex. Both are cheaper than Luke Skywalker, Legacy of the Lightside. Bomo Greenbark is 18 points with Twin and Stealth while Boba Fett, Young Mercenary is 17 with double and Accurate. Not that much more exspensive for Twin. I do agree that double does have it's uses and I would prefer double with GMA than Twin with mobile, but we're all talking about double and twin by themselves. Anyways, I kind of like how this thread has been comming along. Sincerely, Jester007
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Sithborg wrote:Even without GMA, there are plenty of reasons I prefer Double to Twin. 1. Not limited to one target, far better to kill 2 scrubs than just one. 2. Optional. Far more strategic. That's why double got my vote.
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With melee: Always twin. Often double limits attacks on the move to 20. Really, if I want to march my figures though gunfire, I would much rather have twin. Only time I could accept double was if I could twin it, or had greater moble, then it would not make a huge amount of difference.
With shooters: Probably same as above. Canderous Oto, while a triple, is a perfect example. He's really quite slow and lumbering in compersion to other Mandos with very little that can be done to boost him. You could pair him with Mando Captain, but a single Mando Scout and Gunslinger can do as much damage as him on most bad days, with a loss of a single attackpoint and gaining survial abilitys, while just has regenration 10.
That problem only gets greatly mulipled for double shooters, as they do less damage on the move anyways, and a static force either has to be a earth army (loads of boys able to weather hits) or it's simply not good enough as the other team will just nip in and out of cover. Ever seen a senate commando without Argius? No, because on that same senate commando, they rarely use double, they always use twin and only double if the oppoment is forced to expose targets to them on a good turn. Double can be unreliable unless a movement breaker of somekind is introduced.
To be honest, I would rather use a single attacker then a double if prices were to be factored into it. Thats how I feel about it.
With greater mobile though, double is always great. Coming back to Gunslinger and scout being one of the most best non-uniques in the game, excluding the IG-Lancer and IG-86.
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Pretty much all the theory has been covered, so I vote ???
It's situational.
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i like the McDouble, same as the Double Cheeseburger but one less slice of cheese and a whole buck less!
i like the double. two targets is a nice threat and you don't "lose" the extra attack when you defeat someone on the first hit. imagine boba BH with greater mobile and double?
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I'm with all who say double on shooters and twin on melee, theres nothing i like more then using Lord Vader force leaping into a crowd and sweeping twin.
But im personally tired of twin and mobile on shooters, it takes away from some of the fun
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Jester007 wrote:creme_brule wrote:..but twin costs more... Maybe in some cases. Look at Dash Rendar, Renegade Smuggler and Captain Rex. Both are cheaper than Luke Skywalker, Legacy of the Lightside. Bomo Greenbark is 18 points with Twin and Stealth while Boba Fett, Young Mercenary is 17 with double and Accurate. Not that much more exspensive for Twin. I do agree that double does have it's uses and I would prefer double with GMA than Twin with mobile, but we're all talking about double and twin by themselves. Anyways, I kind of like how this thread has been comming along. Sincerely, Jester007 Not really sure those are fair comparisons. You're talking about large differences between sets. There's a whole slew of 17 point pieces that are better than Boba Young Merc, simply because he's from the 3rd set of the game. So, due to the natural powercreep of the game, it makes total sense that Bomo would be better. And just straight up comparing pieces like that isn't necessarily fair either. Luke LOTLS might cost what he does also because of the fact that he's got Accurate Shot, Stealth, Force Points, etc., which Dash and Rex do not have.
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There aren't enough choices in the poll because it should be broken down into melee and ranged categories. On a Melee character Twin wins by a huge margin because getting off a even a double attack can be challenging much less a double attack against two different target. On a ranged piece each has its uses and to me the question of "which is better" comes down to the stats and how the piece is going to be used.
I'd also that that when you ask "what would you rather have" it should be assumed that both have the same effect on a piece's cost otherwise you aren't comparing the same thing.
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Falconjo wrote: But im personally tired of twin and mobile on shooters, it takes away from some of the fun
But this is exactly what Star Wars is all about. Look at any of the movies, cartoons etc. they're using laser weapons and shots are flying all over the place and usually missing the target because everyone else is dodging and evading. I think GMA, evade and twin attacks is what makes the game more realistic to what the Star Wars universe is all about. Granted I do hate it when someone evades my critical hit...
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DarthJoe8 wrote:I think GMA, evade and twin attacks is what makes the game more realistic to what the Star Wars universe is all about. Silly me: I think lightsabers. I must be thinking of a different franchise.
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Gotta go with twin since it's so easy to give extra attacks now. Jedi Exile, Vader, JG Kenobi... twin just becomes incredible. Plus the Vong really do well with the twin thing. Ossus guardian moves twelve, twins you, and you are helpless against me! MWUAHAHAHA!
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Mandelmauler wrote:DarthJoe8 wrote:I think GMA, evade and twin attacks is what makes the game more realistic to what the Star Wars universe is all about. Silly me: I think lightsabers. I must be thinking of a different franchise. Yup silly you, Jedi have GMA, evade and twin attacks too. Lightsabers are cool also. lol
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DarthReeves wrote:Gotta go with twin since it's so easy to give extra attacks now. Jedi Exile, Vader, JG Kenobi... twin just becomes incredible. Plus the Vong really do well with the twin thing. Ossus guardian moves twelve, twins you, and you are helpless against me! MWUAHAHAHA! So you always play the OG with Jaina and Han STA?
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swinefeld wrote:DarthReeves wrote:Gotta go with twin since it's so easy to give extra attacks now. Jedi Exile, Vader, JG Kenobi... twin just becomes incredible. Plus the Vong really do well with the twin thing. Ossus guardian moves twelve, twins you, and you are helpless against me! MWUAHAHAHA! So you always play the OG with Jaina and Han STA? when I'm using Ossus I always have the Han/Jaina in yes....and I seldom if ever lose with it. It is mighty!
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DarthReeves wrote:swinefeld wrote:DarthReeves wrote:Gotta go with twin since it's so easy to give extra attacks now. Jedi Exile, Vader, JG Kenobi... twin just becomes incredible. Plus the Vong really do well with the twin thing. Ossus guardian moves twelve, twins you, and you are helpless against me! MWUAHAHAHA! So you always play the OG with Jaina and Han STA? when I'm using Ossus I always have the Han/Jaina in yes....and I seldom if ever lose with it. It is mighty! especially if you throw in the ithorian commander, via Garm
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DarthReeves wrote:swinefeld wrote:DarthReeves wrote:Gotta go with twin since it's so easy to give extra attacks now. Jedi Exile, Vader, JG Kenobi... twin just becomes incredible. Plus the Vong really do well with the twin thing. Ossus guardian moves twelve, twins you, and you are helpless against me! MWUAHAHAHA! So you always play the OG with Jaina and Han STA? when I'm using Ossus I always have the Han/Jaina in yes....and I seldom if ever lose with it. It is mighty! Cheers to that! I trashed superstealth on Ossus constantly. Han GH + Mara Jade, Jedi + support was deadly on that map.
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DarthJoe8 wrote:Falconjo wrote: But im personally tired of twin and mobile on shooters, it takes away from some of the fun
But this is exactly what Star Wars is all about. Look at any of the movies, cartoons etc. they're using laser weapons and shots are flying all over the place and usually missing the target because everyone else is dodging and evading. I think GMA, evade and twin attacks is what makes the game more realistic to what the Star Wars universe is all about. Granted I do hate it when someone evades my critical hit... ...what come to mind is the beginning of ep. IV (new hope)...on tantive IV, that was a FAIL then lol those troopers couldnt evade to save their LIFE (well...)!
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Sithborg wrote:Even without GMA, there are plenty of reasons I prefer Double to Twin. 1. Not limited to one target, far better to kill 2 scrubs than just one. 2. Optional. Far more strategic. Dead Eye and Careful shot stacks with it. Not too mention, certain factions grant access to twin, or if the person deals 10 damage and has access to a Czerka Scientist.
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Saronian wrote:Sithborg wrote:Even without GMA, there are plenty of reasons I prefer Double to Twin. 1. Not limited to one target, far better to kill 2 scrubs than just one. 2. Optional. Far more strategic. Dead Eye and Careful shot stacks with it. Not too mention, certain factions grant access to twin, or if the person deals 10 damage and has access to a Czerka Scientist. exactly, but for melee, i must agree i wasnt speficic enough...i was refering to non melee
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