Okay, let's keep it on the subject, not the posters.

Peronally, I feel Execute Order 66 breaks a significant rule of the game, whether it is problematic or not in the game. Soresu Style Mastery is a lesser offender, but was a bigger problem due to the piece involved.
Yeah, and no ability has caused as many issues as Override.

Well, I agree with Bill that Override is huge. I have a squad that I won 2 tournaments with last week with 2 of the threat pieces having GMA. I lost to my son playtesting it prior to those tournaments because he sniped my R2 with accurate and then used door control and activations to dictate when attacks took place. I've always been an advocate of door control within my group and, unfortunately for me, my son listened to me this time lol.

I know I am late to thread but Gambit is not a special ability.

True, but the poll does say 'ability', not 'special ability'. The ability to earn points via gambit is an ability.

Door Control!

Doors in the game are great because they provide an obstacle which forces you to consider timing in activations. Without the need for door control, Single activation squads are at a disadvantage when having to move characters up to doors to open them without being able to shoot. Adds flavor and challenge. But being forced to add characters you would never consider using to prevent some d-bag from locking you in a room and collecting a coward's victory through center points...,

This is the way I see it. Door control, sure..., without center points. Or centerpoints without door control. When the guys get together for tourneys on saturdays around my neck of the woods we ask just one question. "Fun squad or competitive?" But what we really end up meaning is "are we going to have to be wary of being locked in a room and watch an inferior squad play faux brave in the center of the map.

I guess I like to actually play the game without having to waste useful points to make sure that I am not forced to watch my squad pitch tents without firing a shot. No action, no battle = game NOT PLAYED and people I don't want to play against ever again.

And bringing it back to the game overall and not isolating the issue, no squad could win any tournament without guarding itself from Overide. Every squad has it which means that it is far too accessible to every faction. Imagine if Emperor Palpatine, Sith Lord's [Execute Order 66] instead affected all commons and uncommons of every faction. Now everyone is FORCED to play the counter. Any ability that ruins EVERY squads' chances of victory without including a counter to it is broken.

Hardest on you perhaps but causes barely a ripple in the game itself. That command effect is also unique to a rare piece when I was looking at more common things that can be found on a number of pieces.
Order 66 doesn't get to make the list because it is a single ability only found on a VR piece. I had considered including SSM but I'd have had to specify the original (any attack) version or the competitive definition (slightly improved Evasion) and in the end figured Evasion could cover that aspect of damage prevention.


I isn't an ability any one piece has exclusively but is a rule granted "ability" to earn points without killing things. I also included it as some people have disliked it and I was considering more possible selections.

Exactly. Override has a great enough effect on the game that a player must dedicate some points towards a counter or their own override, otherwise they are at a significant disadvantage when going up against Override.

i would have to say for me tow cable and Swap with mas is a bad abillity. THey allow for some pretty powerful combos that could allow a preson like rex to essentially move up to 30 spaces and still make all his attack. I realize that that is both used together, but even seperate a character can move 18 with tow cable and still attack at least once. Now I realize that swap is a commander effect but i still consider it an abillity of the game(similar to others view on gambit)

The thread title is which ability HARMS the game most. Just because override means most players are going to have to factor it into their squad building, does that necessarily mean it harms the game? It has a huge effect yes, but I wouldn't say it harms the game.

It forces me to think much more tactically, and means I can't just rely on moving people adjacent to doors to open them.

For me the worst thing in the game is Princess Leia's CE granting the attack at +4 and +10. But that is probably due to my own inexperience and the fact that I don't have her...yet.

An ability doesn't need to have an effect on the meta to be unfun to play against. Execute Order 66 can completely kill clone based squads. It single handidly makes Clone squads nearly unplayable because if you face him, you are done.

And Soresu Mastery is a bigger issue than Evade, pre-DCI change. Soresu had no inherent weaknes, unlike Evade, and was pretty much gaurenteed to be on a Force User, so rerolls are a problem. And then you look at the pieces that they actually gave it too...