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Poll Question : Masters of the Force Rating (Poll is closed)
Choice Votes Statistics
0: Totally worthless and dont want a thing 1 1.515151 %
1: Pretty sad only one or two wants 1 1.515151 %
2: Coulda have been much better but I want some 5 7.575757 %
3: Ok but could of been better 10 15.151515 %
4: Pretty nice but could have done without xyz 40 60.606060 %
5: Awesome. One of the best sets and worth the doe 9 13.636363 %

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thodafett
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:44:02 AM
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Ganner!! can't wait, must have Ganner in my case!!!
LoboStele
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 6:25:38 AM
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DarthReeves wrote:
TheStarkiller wrote:
I don't think a single Dark Times figure outright sucked.

I think Bomo was a brilliant adaptation of the character (especially with impulsive reprisal).

I think that is why I have such high hopes for the last set (Stats-wise).



You misunderstand...I think he was an ok piece, but when I think VR I think that usually means they are a desirable rarity to obtain. Twin and stealth with a 6 attatck for 10 damage isn't exactly VR worthy to me. It's like if I pull Nader Vebb and he's a VR I should feel better about pulling him since he's very rare, even though he'll never see playing time. Does that make sense? Personally I wanted Bomo for my imperial super stealth squad...but as a rare


Maybe you just haven't been playing the game long enough to realize this, but it's actually more common for the VRs to be lousy game pieces. Typically, the VRs are either brutal pieces (like Lord Vader or Boba BH), or they are niche pieces to please smaller fan groups (Bomo, K'kruhk, Captain Mar Tuuk, etc.). Honestly, I much rather prefer that the Rares have the good playable stats, that way those pieces are more readily available to people. Granted, it is a collectible game, but it's no fun if the 'rich' are the only ones who can obtain the best pieces in the game.
TheStarkiller
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 7:02:52 AM
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LoboStele wrote:
DarthReeves wrote:
TheStarkiller wrote:
I don't think a single Dark Times figure outright sucked.

I think Bomo was a brilliant adaptation of the character (especially with impulsive reprisal).

I think that is why I have such high hopes for the last set (Stats-wise).



You misunderstand...I think he was an ok piece, but when I think VR I think that usually means they are a desirable rarity to obtain. Twin and stealth with a 6 attatck for 10 damage isn't exactly VR worthy to me. It's like if I pull Nader Vebb and he's a VR I should feel better about pulling him since he's very rare, even though he'll never see playing time. Does that make sense? Personally I wanted Bomo for my imperial super stealth squad...but as a rare


Maybe you just haven't been playing the game long enough to realize this, but it's actually more common for the VRs to be lousy game pieces. Typically, the VRs are either brutal pieces (like Lord Vader or Boba BH), or they are niche pieces to please smaller fan groups (Bomo, K'kruhk, Captain Mar Tuuk, etc.). Honestly, I much rather prefer that the Rares have the good playable stats, that way those pieces are more readily available to people. Granted, it is a collectible game, but it's no fun if the 'rich' are the only ones who can obtain the best pieces in the game.


[sarcasm]What? you don't use Tion Medon every week? He's in almost all of my builds...Evanzen, too....[/sarcasm]

Yeah, I hear you on the Mon Cal jedi in Galaxy at war. At least they could have made him a little useful.

I am totally in agreement with LoboStele here, though. I would much have a few sub-par Very Rare pieces than a "survival of the richest" scenario where the only way to compete is to own the most expensive pieces. I noticed the trend a while ago, and I have commended Wizards for it.
yodaccm
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 7:07:47 AM
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This is how I view the approach taken to the "lesser" factions, e.g. Sith, Mando's and Vong as they exist within the whole Star Wars canon and hence their level of inclusion in the game.

First, the Sith. Rule of Two kind of says it all for these guys. With exceptions, the Sith are traditionally known for this ideal, hence there isn't an onslaught of Sith characters in the game. It's kind of how they are portrayed in the movie, perhaps this is road they took in portraying them in the game.

I'll just lump Vong and Mando's into one group, since I think they are similar. These guys are definitely a "side note" in the Star Wars lore. Yeah, the Vong got an entire series devoted to them, but in the long run, Star Wars is about Rebel and Imperials. Jedi vs. Sith. Republic vs. Seperatists. We should be lucky to have these sub-factions at all to play with, in my opinion. They add flavor, a bit of collectibility and a nod to the fans, but to expect they would EVER receive the same attention as the others I think is a bit unrealistic.

With that said, this set does include all factions, so that is probably as good as you can get. I think this will be a great set, even without knowing the stats.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 7:08:21 AM
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TheStarkiller wrote:

I am totally in agreement with LoboStele here, though. I would much have a few sub-par Very Rare pieces than a "survival of the richest" scenario where the only way to compete is to own the most expensive pieces. I noticed the trend a while ago, and I have commended Wizards for it.


I noticed it, too, and I also think it helps people to generally be happier with their purchase. Either you get a rare that is useful and is someone from the movies, or you get a VR that is worth more money due to collectibility, so even if you don't follow the EU closely enough to have heard of them it's still cool.
Sithborg
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 7:39:15 AM
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The set is about as good as I could hope for, with some real surprises. Sculpts are looking real good, so I am eagerly awaiting the stats.
greentime
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 12:16:30 PM
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If they were going to make 8 dejarik pieces, why the heck didn't they finish it off and release a grimtaash? It's so random that they left that one out.

Aside of Rebels getting way too many pieces and yet another Han, I'm pretty optimistic about this set. Hopefully Hoth and Cay will bring some oompth to the OR and the holomonsters won't totally suck (cause they're 20% of the set!).

This set will have some serious chase pieces too - Ganner, Yoda Spirit, that videogame chick, Hoth. Like half the super rare are super fanboi pieces too (Ganner fanboi here). I do hope that Wizards produces enough of this set that it doesn't have serious supply problems.
kezzamachine
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 12:24:12 PM
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I just gotta say, I love yodaccm
lafemme1014
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 1:32:18 PM
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easily could have done with out another Kit Fisto, That spot should be Jaina Solo and then WOTC's exit from the game would have gone out with some class, but now they just confirm that they really dont listen to the players of this game.
kezzamachine
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 1:47:55 PM
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They better get it right next set or else!
Falconjo
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 2:49:14 PM
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lafemme1014 wrote:
easily could have done with out another Kit Fisto, That spot should be Jaina Solo and then WOTC's exit from the game would have gone out with some class, but now they just confirm that they really dont listen to the players of this game.


no Jaina wouldve been a waste of a spot. The last spot should be Shimmra no questions asked. The OR used to be able to complain about how they get shafted Because they did but that ship has sailed and we can tell the real red headed step child of the game is the Vong
carnorjax1
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 2:53:52 PM
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I think I'll wait to hear the stats before I judge, but my hopes are not high
DarthReeves
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 3:46:31 PM
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LoboStele wrote:
DarthReeves wrote:
TheStarkiller wrote:
I don't think a single Dark Times figure outright sucked.

I think Bomo was a brilliant adaptation of the character (especially with impulsive reprisal).

I think that is why I have such high hopes for the last set (Stats-wise).



You misunderstand...I think he was an ok piece, but when I think VR I think that usually means they are a desirable rarity to obtain. Twin and stealth with a 6 attatck for 10 damage isn't exactly VR worthy to me. It's like if I pull Nader Vebb and he's a VR I should feel better about pulling him since he's very rare, even though he'll never see playing time. Does that make sense? Personally I wanted Bomo for my imperial super stealth squad...but as a rare


Maybe you just haven't been playing the game long enough to realize this, but it's actually more common for the VRs to be lousy game pieces. Typically, the VRs are either brutal pieces (like Lord Vader or Boba BH), or they are niche pieces to please smaller fan groups (Bomo, K'kruhk, Captain Mar Tuuk, etc.). Honestly, I much rather prefer that the Rares have the good playable stats, that way those pieces are more readily available to people. Granted, it is a collectible game, but it's no fun if the 'rich' are the only ones who can obtain the best pieces in the game.



I'm far from the "rich collector" in this game. The only reason I own Revan and Boba BH are because I got REALLY lucky in pulls. Again, what I'm saying is: I've been really excited to see Ganner Rhysode...and I'm freaking pumped to see him on the list. My hope is that his stats are not going to be of the lesser pieces as of late. If Ganner is an 18 point double attack +10 for 20 with force 2 and deflect. I have been so excited to see the great pieces come from the rare column as of late. The first set to actually have good "rare's" as opposed to the Very Rare's would be KOTR. Can we all agree on that? Rare's before that were "ok" but the best of the set was always the VR's. General Wedge and Vader Scourge were the first easy to obtain awesome rares. As of late I've noticed that the rare's are what you want (especially in the Dark Times). All I'm saying is that I want my Ganner to not follow the recent trend of the Bomo's and the Nadder's. I want him to be a VR of mighty power as opposed to a cute VR that I put on my shelf and never use. Honestly the only expensive piece I've ever bought was $20 for Cap'n Rex. Other than than i've just been lucky on pulls, and I don't buy many packs at all.
DarthReeves
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 3:50:21 PM
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greentime wrote:

Aside of Rebels getting way too many pieces and yet another Han, I'm pretty optimistic about this set. Hopefully Hoth and Cay will bring some oompth to the OR and the holomonsters won't totally suck (cause they're 20% of the set!).



Remember: This Han will probably have a CE, and those of us who use New Rep a lot will be diggin this...hopefully
Sithborg
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 4:02:42 PM
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I would say Universe was the first set to have "power rares". Vader JH, Han, Chewie.
erictedders
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 4:34:07 PM
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yodaccm wrote:


I suspect Freedon Nadd will grant some kind of spirit ability once he is defeated, since he christened both Exar Kun and Ulic as Sith Lords.




Marka Ragnos. Freedon just taught Exar. Exar banished his spirit. Marka Ragnos christened Exar and Ulic. But Freedon is cool anyways. Looking forward to the stats. Can't vote until I know for certain that we haven't been handed a flaming bag of crap.
lafemme1014
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:14:21 PM
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Falconjo wrote:
lafemme1014 wrote:
easily could have done with out another Kit Fisto, That spot should be Jaina Solo and then WOTC's exit from the game would have gone out with some class, but now they just confirm that they really dont listen to the players of this game.


no Jaina wouldve been a waste of a spot. The last spot should be Shimmra no questions asked. The OR used to be able to complain about how they get shafted Because they did but that ship has sailed and we can tell the real red headed step child of the game is the Vong




I disagree that Jaina Solo, which I am sure they would have made the sword of the jedi figure would not be a waste of a spot in a set called "Masters of the Force." I agree that Shimmra should be made but take out the 500th Han Solo that they have made to give him a spot.
lafemme1014
Posted: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:16:11 PM
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kezzamachine wrote:
They better get it right next set or else!


uh I think this is the last set WOTC is going to make
brennan
Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:15:13 AM
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LoboStele wrote:
I would agree that I would've rather seen that Rare slot go to a character like Shimrra, Onimi, Demagol, or Rohlan Dyre, etc. But, we can hopefully cover those with some Vsets.



SPOILER ALERT for Knights of the Old Republic comic series:




P.S. Demagol is Rohlan BigGrin LOL
LoboStele
Posted: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 2:32:09 AM
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yodaccm wrote:

I'll just lump Vong and Mando's into one group, since I think they are similar. These guys are definitely a "side note" in the Star Wars lore. Yeah, the Vong got an entire series devoted to them, but in the long run, Star Wars is about Rebel and Imperials. Jedi vs. Sith. Republic vs. Seperatists. We should be lucky to have these sub-factions at all to play with, in my opinion. They add flavor, a bit of collectibility and a nod to the fans, but to expect they would EVER receive the same attention as the others I think is a bit unrealistic.


Yeah, I agree with you. It's not really about them getting the 'same' attention though. I would never expect the Vong to have as many pieces as any of the other factions. It's just that it's easier to create a competitive squad with the Black Sun sub-faction than it is with the Vong, which is kind of irritating. Just a couple of more pieces to help flesh out the faction, give them a few more Uniques, and make them a tad more competitive would have been great. It's OK though. We'll make do with what we have.

DarthReeves wrote:
I'm far from the "rich collector" in this game. The only reason I own Revan and Boba BH are because I got REALLY lucky in pulls. Again, what I'm saying is: I've been really excited to see Ganner Rhysode...and I'm freaking pumped to see him on the list. My hope is that his stats are not going to be of the lesser pieces as of late. If Ganner is an 18 point double attack +10 for 20 with force 2 and deflect. I have been so excited to see the great pieces come from the rare column as of late. The first set to actually have good "rare's" as opposed to the Very Rare's would be KOTR. Can we all agree on that? Rare's before that were "ok" but the best of the set was always the VR's. General Wedge and Vader Scourge were the first easy to obtain awesome rares. As of late I've noticed that the rare's are what you want (especially in the Dark Times). All I'm saying is that I want my Ganner to not follow the recent trend of the Bomo's and the Nadder's. I want him to be a VR of mighty power as opposed to a cute VR that I put on my shelf and never use. Honestly the only expensive piece I've ever bought was $20 for Cap'n Rex. Other than than i've just been lucky on pulls, and I don't buy many packs at all.


I don't know if I'd agree that Dark Times was all focused on the Rs. Yes, a couple of them are game changers, but honestly, Ferus Olin and Dass Jennir have just as large of an impact on the Meta as Zuckuss does, IMO. And those two are certainly bigger impacts than any of the other BHs (after Zuckuss). Even Jax is a better playable piece than some of the BHs. So, the VRs don't always get the shaft when it comes to stats. With the awesome job that Peter did on Ferus, Dass, K'kruhk, etc., I've got faith that pieces like Ganner will turn out just fine.
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