sidious has the cred for his downbringing of the republic, but bane would win in a duel imo

I had to vote for Bane. The guy took out Lord Kaan's Sith Brotherhood and a bunch of Jedi. He created the rule of two. It also appears that set the events in motion that would eventually allow Sidious to take over the Republic and kill most of the Jedi.

Without Bane, we would never have had Sidious! IMHO

Not a very sith action to show compassion and save someone else... I voted Darth Nihilus. Katarr devastation anyone?



"He is a wound in the Force, more presence than flesh, and in his wake life dies… sacrificing itself to his hunger."

"The less said of that one, the better—even a stray thought may draw him."

"He cares nothing for the Sith or its teachings… or the Jedi. And when the Jedi are dead, he will feed on the galaxy, the Republic, and eventually, consume the Sith as well."

The rule of two does not apply to this question. The rule of one does. Which means it apparently is a question since it seems you couldn't decide!

I think that this pole is really only between three Sith Lords: Darth Revan, Darth Bane, and Darth Sidious (though the others are "great" in their own way).

It's hard for me to choose, and I don't think I'll say who I choose due to the OT vs. EU fighting I'm seeing here, I would probably get post attacked. But in my honest opinion, it will be one of those three I mentioned. All three accomplished great feats in the ways of furthering the dark side or their own power, all three were menaces to the Jedi, and all three can claim title to having "won" at some point. So again, my vote would be for one of those three.

On a side note (yet still related topic), I think that Darth Nihilus deserves credit. I think the reason he isn't really considered a powerful sith (compared to the big name ones) since his boss fight in KotOR II was fairly easy. But if you look at what he was capable of, he was actually an incredible threat to the galaxy. Only the Jedi Exile could have killed him, he could devour the life of all inhabitants on a planet from orbit, and, like it's been mentioned, he would have consumed everything in the galaxy if he hadn't stopped.
That is why I believe Nihilus is the most underappretiated powerful Sith in the Star Wars universe.

Really? I see it as Palps setting the entire thing up. With Anakin attacking Windu his fall to the darkside was complete. If Palps killed Windu then Anakin would've seen Palps as an enemy instead of the Jedi, but with Windu about to murder Palp it became clear to Anakin what he he needed to do.



Luck?? There is no luck. Yoda got his butt kicked and ran for his life.

It is a tough call. Perhaps I should have broadened the poll. I guess each sith was the most powerful in their own way.

well when i said in a duel i meant one on one no vader involved. in s straight duel with nobody to save palpys wrinlkly a$$ bane would win. i also think bane would beat yoda

Warning Very Long.
Why I believe Sidious is the greatest Sith, from EU point of view as all the other characters are EU.

Some Comparisons:
Career Highlights/results
Darth Nihilus: Killed some Jedi. Not Much IMO
Darth Bane: Speed up the defeat of the Dark Brother hood as the Jedi was going to do that anyways. He mainly Tricked the Jedi in think the Sith were all killed, which was important for the Rule of Two. Know he did make a cult of two that last a long time but that's a group effort not just him. His biggest success IMO is he fooled the Jedi in think the Sith were gone.
Darth Revan: Turn the Mandalorian War around for the republic and won. Attack the republic, got betrayed and captured by the jedi who let him lived, killed his betrayer which end a war, and went MIA. End result not much, the republic was weaken by a big war which lead to the near death of the Jedi Order thanks to the follow up attacks on the Jedi by the Triumvirate.
Exar Kuun: Like Revan but less. Main thing is he brought back the Sith.
Karness Muur: He lived long in a talisman.
Marka Ragnos: Held the Sith empire. Someone had to do it.
Naga Sadow: Attack the Jedi lost and went Hiding.Taught some future Sith as a spirit.
Darth Zannah: History is Pending, at the very less she kept the Rule of two going.
Darth Sidious: Killed the Jedi Order, not all the Jedi but the Order. Luke has to start from scratch look up history and work with what little he learn from Yoda. The New Jedi order is a New Jedi Order, the old order was stagnate. He controlled the Galaxy 20 years not including clone war which he started.
Bane, Kuun, and Sidious are the only one who really did something. Revan did most of his stuff as a Jedi and in a way really failed the Sith.


Lets now look at Force Power:
Darth Nihilus: Soul Suck a Plant, that one of the biggest force power ever used. But basically was a slave to his Hunger.
Darth Bane: Very strong in the "Basic" force powers, lightning, force of will, etc. He didn't do thought bomb himself so we can't give that to him. Nothing to eating a plant. Also he couldn't do Sith Sorcery, or at least not that skilled.
Darth Revan: Like Bane.
Exar Kuun: Like Bane but was a master of Sith Sorcery. Kept his spirit alive for a very long time.
Karness Muur: Made one of the strongest, if not the strongest Sith Artifacts ever.
Marka Ragnos: He came back as a sith spirit a handful of times.
Naga Sadow: Manipulate solar activity, make very strong illusions, and possessed someone. Lived on as a sith spirit for a long time. Some of the above were or may have been enhance thanks to the Sith Meditation Sphere.
Darth Zannah: Like bane but with Sith Sorcery.
Darth Sidious: Kept possessing clones and people to stay alive physically not just as a spirit. Till
"The Jedi Knight bound the Emperor's soul to his own departing life force, taking it with him as he became one with the Force. Railing and cursing against the Skywalker family, Emperor Palpatine's spirit was dragged into the depths of the Force, where every deceased Jedi would ensure his dark essence would never again return to wreak havoc upon the galaxy." Ya he was hard to kill.
Could make force storm that was said to be able to kill a plant, never used it to do so but he did summon one but was stopped by the Skywalkers. Clouded the entire Jedi Order vision in the darkside. Hide his darkness from the Order which he had face to face talks with. and like Bane was "strong in the force".

So the only contends in Force Power is Nihilus, Karness Muur, Naga Sadow, and Sidious everyone else is just "Strong in the force". I say Sidious is stronger than Nihilus as both could kill a planet but Sidoius wasn't a slave to any hunger and could cheat death. Muur Talisman and Naga Sadow force feats with are harder to compare as the both used or made an items. I go with Sidious as his other "basic" force power seem to be at least equal if not greater than Muur and Naga.

Now to Lightsaber skills:
Darth Nihilus: Nothing Special
Darth Bane: Was a great duelist
Darth Revan: Was a great Duelist
Exar Kuun: Was a great Duelist
Karness Muur: Nothing Special
Marka Ragnos: Nothing Special
Naga Sadow: Nothing Special
Darth Zannah: Skilled but was overpowered by Bane and had to use Force Powers in their fights.
Darth Sidious: Was a great Duelist
Can't really compare Duel abilities, for those who say Sidious isn't a great duelist all I have to say is he fought Windu plus 3 other Jedi master at once in a light-saber Duel no force lighting, no force push, no illusions just saber vs sabers. Win or loss you have to be great for kill three Jedi master all very skilled in dueling and fighting Windu one of the best Duelist in history till Anakin arrived. I won't start an argument if he though the match or not as the only thing we got is the movie and a Novel which conflict a little bit from each other. Also it up to person Interpretations, maybe a different thread on this subject.
So Bane, Revan, Kuun, and Sidious are great duelers.

Anyways Sidous was the most Successful of the Sith even thou they all were killed, His was one of the strongest force user of all time, and was one of the best light-saber practitioners. He also the only one in all three of my mention categories. Just my reason why he is the best.

Well palpy did kill 2 jedi masters in 2 sec then engineered the greatest Jedi duelist ever death. Still Palpy is still the sith that you have 6 movies made about him so i can see how peeps will jump on his bandwagon. Revan or Bane for me just because i think that palply relied on more people so was only as strong as his weakest link.