Yep, there were three of us using him as a weapon. IKillGungans (German Champion several times), and Sithborg. I got turned onto him by these two.

And until B&B was shown to be a winner and the new gate keeper, we had few converts. Afterwards, we got quite a few people on board.

One of my favorite oldies was to use Tyranus and Aurra (Sep) with San, and the MTB, where'd I'd off San after setting up my early round strike.

The vset designers have the burden of trying to design figures that are strong enough to see competitive play but not broken.

The IG 86 droids are really good, so in order to create a playable droid they have to be as good as the igs. CDO went a little too far and only made CDOs playable and not the original commando droid.

I don't see the point in having vsets if we aren't going to make competitive figures. Some figures are going to be broken when players attempt to break them in a competitive environment. I am glad to see that there is discussion about toning some of the more powerful vset figs down.

I won the Canadian regional without Poggle or drones in a separatist squad.

weak argument, have lou, engineer, whoever else it is that sets them up with the cards send them a list of erratas in the package that contains the cards... wow.. what a simple fix. and if they come to bloomilk to print the v-sets themselves, then it is their fault if they miss an errata.

oh please like you cater to the people that don't comment on here lol. you say you take them into consideration, but if they are not talking or having input then how do you know they are using your v-sets, or not banning or making erratas themselves. fact is you won't please everyone and using these "ghosts" as a shield is sad.

I may not Necessarily be in the Majority here, but i actually don't mind Activation control. I also don't spam Figures Usually. Not my style.


Not a bad idea. THat would work.

who says they left it in a bad state? They left it in an UNBALANCED state, but the game was plenty fun with some great figures but a large disparity between the best and the worst. Vsets tried to bring the crap factions to the fore which they did within 2 sets and since then they've been slowly increasing the number of top tier figs.
The mechanics of the game means increased activations create and advantage, pieces like dodonna and San hill increase that fact. Removing them won't change that issue and i'm one of those people who think it brings a certain identity to those factions that have it.

Also, i'm one of those who doesn't want to touch WotC pieces or their rule sets. It was their game and anyone who knows that game should be able to port into this one without having someone say "sorry, you can now walk over mice", "sorry, we did away with mas amedda" "sorry X was banned". Legacy does that and does a good job of it, no need for two facets of that style.



That's not a bad idea, there are plenty of abilities that make it hard for shooters like force cloak, energy shield and the like. The meta currently favors shooters but its a relatively new occurrence in Vset history that this is the case.

Usually melee and shooters have had decent balance. Squads like solo Charge, skybuck, master lukes art class, this parties over, with decent range and melee options have always been *my* goal of squad building.



I'm on board with errataing poggle and i was involved in his design. Its long over due i agree but as with everything in this game it requires a lot of consensus. Some people worry about the flood gates opening, some worry that figures that have been designed to combat these things will become over powerful or useless, some still actually like the game as it is.

my feeling currently is that the CDO, Poggle and the Klat get errata'd. Cost increase for 2 and make the CDO pertain to figs called commando droid.

As for Mace, to me he's annoying but not broken and i've been on the receiving end of arguable his most annoying ability which is being able to kill a 130 hp melee piece on their turn (after you attacked them, isn't attacking pieces the point of the game? ). Undercosted perhaps, swingy perhaps. His toughest ability in my mind is his double absorb that takes many other melee figs out of the game because he can't be assaulted, you can't riposte or block him. But again its my opinion, some people like that piece.

Same with Bastilla, Jaq, SSM and other things people have mentioned. Designs have been made with these pieces in mind so weakening them now would likely have unintended consequences.

Also, i think that making changes to figs should be done in small groups. 3 figures at a time is suffice, if anything else in the time after the changes crops up then you don't have to reverse a whole lot of crap.

I dont really know people So I will just ask the question. Is NZ represented in that list of 7?

I tend to agree with the sentiment of a group of people making the shots with the community in mind and with a very clear "vision" leading the way.

On to this idea about WotC. That was 5 years ago people. People will expect a few changes. It is like that with literally every game I have ever played that come out with new editions/sets
Anyway, my two cents are that people that played the game 5 years ago (if any of them are coming back from half a decade ago) come back, they will need to learn all the new pieces anyway, which will change the way they see the game, a few rule changes/errata are not going to add too much to what they need to "absorb" anyway

That is pretty much exactly how it works now.

No-one is is charge. It's a bunch of people who have invested a huge amount of time and effort for nothing more than extending the life of the game. We don't all agree and it takes ages to come to a consensus because of the mass of differing opinions.

The goal is to make a balanced meta where all factions can compete and all squad types (shooters, melee, balanced, swarms, tanks and tech) have a place in the game.

The design crew rotates and anyone who cares can get involved by playtesting. Playtest enough and show you can work within the chaos without resorting to insults and emotional outbursts and you get to design.

That's how it's worked for 5 years, that's how it will continue to work.