EXACTLY!!! A battle game that allows victory without battle is less fun than pinching off a massive dry, hard loaf. And the person who wins tournaments through wuss tactics is the kind of person that ostracizes new and even regular gamers. It's almost like stealing in a way. There are now people I refuse to play. Not because I leave myself open anymore to door issues (begrudgingly), but because they had the wormy, sheisty, loathesome character to rob the game of fun and their opponents a fair shot through ACTUAL BATTLE, to win. I don't like those people. But more importantly, I don't like that the game gave uniform invitation for the weasels of character to pop out of the woodwork and be rewarded for crappy behavior. Overide used for Centerpoint wins is a PUNK MOVE!

Are you guys kidding? How about when Han, Leia, Chewie and Luke got locked in the trash compactor. I bet they wish they had an uggie huh?? Lucky them they had an R2 unit.

Don't forget Luke locking Vader behind the blast door. lol

It is a way to victory, yes, but that doesn't mean it is a fun way to victory. When you are playing to win, that is fine, but I would bet most players wouldn't enjoy winning that way.

Right, I understand that it's a way to win and that people will use it legitimately as per the rules. What we're discussing is whether the ability hurts the game. And in the case that every single squad must give up better squad options to add at least one uggie or ultimately/eventually lose..., and that it provides a way for opponents to win without firing a shot...,

Better yet, imagine another ability that forced you to play yet another counter in every squad or be defeated. Imagine an impenetrable forcefield power on a fringe common/uncommon that required a "death star pistol" ability on another fringe piece to defeat it. Now you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO include that "Death Star Pistol" ability into your squad or otherwise risk certain defeat no matter who you have in your squad. Now you are even further limited in points when selecting who goes in your squads. Now you can accomplish even less than you could before. That's the definition of "Broken".

That's what Overide does.

Here's a thought..., Grand Master Luke and Kyle Katarn, Battlemaster are in a room together and get locked out by a squad built entirely on Nikto Soldiers and R7 Droids. You think that Luke and Kyle might not just carve their way out of the door and slaughter every last character with taking little or NO damage?

Now I know that bringing other games into this topic might be faux pa, but HeroClix has a really easy solution to this discussion that is built into the basics of their rules. If a character can do over a certain amount of damage they have the chance to break through walls and crush obstacles. And thinking about it, any character that either A) has a lightsaber or B) does 30 damage or more, should be able to bust walls within 6 squares or less (depending on ranged or melee) on a "replaces turn" action. With that kind of rule in effect overide is only a useful ability that forces characters that do higher damage to lose their turn for a chance to break through in a round. So it's still an ability that's an inconvenience but not the broken mess it is right now.

So there it is. I think complaining about things without providing helpful solutions is a sign of bad character. So there's a solution. A workable solution even. A solution that eases tension, relieves weasels from being discovered, keeps new players from characterizing SWM players as d-bags and allows for combat no matter what.

Anyway, that's my approach. The only people I could see as unhappy about that suggestion are the ones who have a hard time winning without it or are more into greeding out over prizes than enjoying game play. But then again what do I know? It was Darth Bane after all that eschooed "Honor is for the living. Dead is dead." But then again, Bane was a pretty evil, greezy and underhanded. He also had no friends. Just saying.

Oh yeah, and there are many other counters to GMA as well as movement tactics that negate its "Absolute Power". I agree with everyone else who disagrees that it's a game breaker. I think it forces all players to step up their game and grow better. GMA is easily countered with a wide variety of squad building options such as Accelerate, Strafe, Evade, Cloaked, Stealth, Swap, Shields, Dark Armor, Vonduun Crab Armor, Lightsaber Deflect, Lightsaber Reflect, Lightsaber Defense, Force Bubble, Heal, Desert Skiff, Squad Cover, Advantageous Cover...,

Did I miss any? And you know, you don't even need any of those abilities. If you make your movements expertly through terrain, you can surround even the toughest super stealthed Cad Bane anytime! Food for thought.

PS. DIPLOMAT!!! Because Diplomat hates Cad. Figure it out.

Just this morning I took down Dash RS and Mara Jade, Jedi who both had evade, by basing them with my shooters. It required some careful placement but it worked and won me the game. There are ways of dealing with abilities, it is just up to the player to know how to.

I voted for Override