Do you even read what people write before you post? I'm pretty sure that particular clarification has been made by every person making that point.

Are you serious? Talk about an asinine comparison, done in poor taste, that doesn't even make sense.


Please quote the post you are talking about. Making general accusations is a form of trolling, and does nothing but make people mad. Further, you need to explain what was "condescending" in someone's post, so that they have the opportunity to respond appropriately. I see nothing condescending in this thread, nor am I aware that any of the players discussing this topic are of the type you described in your follow up here. So it looks an awful lot like trolling to me, and trying to start a fight if I give my honest opinion.

Ok, thanks for the clarification. Just a suggestion, stay away from one word critiques, they are a form of trolling and easily misconstrued if meant to be something more. Your follow up was much more helpful

This is pretty much what everyone in this thread has said, as much as I can surmise. In a competitive tourney, you're expected to know about Door Control, and if you choose not to exercise it, it's your own fault. In a sealed tournament, or other league with a similar structure, you shouldn't be an ass and lock people in rooms because there's no point - we're just playing for fun.

look at this scenario...its bound to happen in sealed tournies...:

Say a GaW sealed tourny:

you have an R7 droid left in your squad (assume the rest has been defeated). your opp. has a bunch of characters left, due to a few "lucky" hits...and you have about a 5 point lead or so, b/c your opp. neglected gambit a bunch.

now, heres the thing. you can either lock yourself in a room and win the game, or commit suicide with a 0 damage figure. which would you rather do? IMO, my survival instincts [of a droid?!] would kick in and lock myself in a door (and hope they dont have blasters! lol)

ah, but if you have a door avialabe, i think you have a great chance of actually winning the game! :)

I almost made a similar post about how current legal maps don't allow a single override lock-in in gambit, the I remembered that it is possible on Ravaged Base. There is a small room next to the leftmost big door that has just a single door and is in gambit. So theoretically, a single R7 could lock itself in that room and collect gambit still.

I agree that this situation is so unlikely (and only a problem in casual games, anyway) that it isn't really worth worrying about.

A list of legal maps can be found in the DCI floor rules.

I don't think override is a problem in sealed format any more than it is one in constructed play.

Sealed is all about inequity. Some people get amazing boosters. Most people don't. No one has any idea, and after the first week no control over what pieces end up in their hands. That's just life.

Here, I'll make you an offer. You get one rare from IE. Would you rather have R2 with scanner, who has the awesome override skill, or Thrawn? OK, that was easy, right? What about Kyp Durron? Arica? Madine? Now obviously I am skewing things here. R2 is way better than Moff Jerjerrod or Logray. But in sealed every piece represents potential. That 1/7 slot in an IE pack has IMMENSE potential -- it could be Thrawn or Dash or Palps, any of whom would massively power up your squad and be something you build around the rest of the tournament. Compared to that R2 is not a huge disappointment but he ain't anywhere near the peak.

Override is at its worst when you get locked out of interacting with your opponent. But the map selection that we use makes that impossible IF you play savvy. One override piece should not be able to wreck your game. Now, if someone manages to amass several, that's different. It strikes me as quite fair to limit override pieces to one per team, because with two you can do some really nasty stuff. What comes to mind first is screwing someone on the outdoors side of Ravaged Base by locking 2/3 doors, forcing them to run from one side to the other or letting you block the corridor with one piece, or blocking both doors in the middle of Throne Room so your opponent has to run way the heck around the back to get into the main room.

Getting a lead and then winning by prevent interaction is unsavory for both players. But I don't think you can really do that with just one override piece, so I don't have a problem with it. Multiple override pieces I would have a problem with.

Echo is dead on. I think I'll run that map tomorrow......