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mrroboto1968
Posted: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:25:48 PM
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Joined: 3/28/2009
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Location: moline illinois
hey man?.................did you touch my drumset?
Sithborg
Posted: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:29:02 PM
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Joined: 8/24/2008
Posts: 5,201
I have no idea. But I am still here. You can still enjoy the site if you have criticisms. Criticisms are not personal attacks.
RannKonnar
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:28:25 AM
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Joined: 12/17/2008
Posts: 761
Location: Indianapolis, IN
imyurhukaberry wrote:
hey Rann, "you Goonie!"
;)

Mellow Whats that supposed to mean? Glare
Uggie Demo
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 2:30:27 AM
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Joined: 8/28/2008
Posts: 1,378
Location: Indianapolis
imyurhukaberry wrote:
hey Rann, "you Goonie!"
;)

Lol LOL
Boris
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 2:43:31 AM
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Joined: 12/18/2008
Posts: 153
RannKonnar wrote:
DarthJak wrote:
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Boris wrote:
The future of the game is in the hands of the people that have bought and played it, not Bloomilk, a site with a 100% hands-off administrator who refuses to have any interaction whatsoever with the people who care about the game and the survivability of the community the most.

I'd venture that when he coined the phrase "The Future is Bloo" he wasn't even thinking about the possible range of interpretations and meanings...
ThumbDown


BLOOMILK......luv it or leave it
Shinja is the creator.
"thank the creator"


Yes!
Correct words!
Shinja makes the site for you to be on Boris.
I know you dont appreciate him.
Your right Darthjak!

It's not that I don't appreciate him. It's that I don't think he appreciates the community or the people who are working the hardest to keep the game going for what's left of us, and I believe that it makes him smile that this site serves as a sounding board for the people who hate us the most. That saddens me.

If this site and all that it stands for is solely and exclusively "the future," as some of you here demand it be, then I want no part of it.
RannKonnar
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 2:51:07 AM
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Joined: 12/17/2008
Posts: 761
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Boris wrote:
RannKonnar wrote:
DarthJak wrote:
ThumbDown
Boris wrote:
The future of the game is in the hands of the people that have bought and played it, not Bloomilk, a site with a 100% hands-off administrator who refuses to have any interaction whatsoever with the people who care about the game and the survivability of the community the most.

I'd venture that when he coined the phrase "The Future is Bloo" he wasn't even thinking about the possible range of interpretations and meanings...
ThumbDown


BLOOMILK......luv it or leave it
Shinja is the creator.
"thank the creator"


Yes!
Correct words!
Shinja makes the site for you to be on Boris.
I know you dont appreciate him.
Your right Darthjak!

It's not that I don't appreciate him. It's that I don't think he appreciates the community or the people who are working the hardest to keep the game going for what's left of us, and I believe that it makes him smile that this site serves as a sounding board for the people who hate us the most. That saddens me.

If this site and all that it stands for is solely and exclusively "the future," as some of you here demand it be, then I want no part of it.

im not trying to drive you away from the site, im just saying it seemed to me like you dont appreciate the mods and Shinja.
And Shinja does care for the community and the site, because hes working on it and spending money on it.
Why spend money on a site, and not care for its members?
Demosthenes
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 2:51:26 AM
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Joined: 12/23/2009
Posts: 1,399
Location: MD
Boris wrote:
It's not that I don't appreciate him. It's that I don't think he appreciates the community or the people who are working the hardest to keep the game going for what's left of us, and I believe that it makes him smile that this site serves as a sounding board for the people who hate us the most. That saddens me.

If this site and all that it stands for is solely and exclusively "the future," as some of you here demand it be, then I want no part of it.


You see, I usually stay out of these BM vs. Gamers battles since I use and like both sites for what they offer, but I put my foot down on this comment.

I've heard from several Gamers patrons about how BlooMilk has regular Gamers-bashing threads, and acts as if the entire site is on one big Gamers-bashing binge. I don't see it, and I don't appreciate the straw man argument that you're presenting, and to be quite frank, I wish everyone would shut up about BlooMilk bashing Gamers and vice versa. It's not productive, and it doesn't foster cooperation.

We're all playing a GAME. Keep that in mind. We're not arguing foreign policy or deciding the federal budget. If you don't like what stance has been taken towards the future of the game on this site, then I'm sorry, but your comments are not constructive or helpful in any way. I'm sure this is mostly a product of Shinja being busy and having a lot on his plate. As he said in his post over at Gamers, he built the site because he wanted a useful tool, he didn't want to become an Administrator and lord over everyone.

Besides, when the V-Sets come out, I guarantee you'll see support for them on these forums, and they'll probably be integrated into the squad builder.

So give it a rest.
Uggie Demo
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 2:54:37 AM
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Joined: 8/28/2008
Posts: 1,378
Location: Indianapolis
Demosthenes wrote:
Boris wrote:
It's not that I don't appreciate him. It's that I don't think he appreciates the community or the people who are working the hardest to keep the game going for what's left of us, and I believe that it makes him smile that this site serves as a sounding board for the people who hate us the most. That saddens me.

If this site and all that it stands for is solely and exclusively "the future," as some of you here demand it be, then I want no part of it.


You see, I usually stay out of these BM vs. Gamers battles since I use and like both sites for what they offer, but I put my foot down on this comment.

I've heard from several Gamers patrons about how BlooMilk has regular Gamers-bashing threads, and acts as if the entire site is on one big Gamers-bashing binge. I don't see it, and I don't appreciate the straw man argument that you're presenting, and to be quite frank, I wish everyone would shut up about BlooMilk bashing Gamers and vice versa. It's not productive, and it doesn't foster cooperation.

We're all playing a GAME. Keep that in mind. We're not arguing foreign policy or deciding the federal budget. If you don't like what stance has been taken towards the future of the game on this site, then I'm sorry, but your comments are not constructive or helpful in any way. I'm sure this is mostly a product of Shinja being busy and having a lot on his plate. As he said in his post over at Gamers, he built the site because he wanted a useful tool, he didn't want to become an Administrator and lord over everyone.

Besides, when the V-Sets come out, I guarantee you'll see support for them on these forums, and they'll probably be integrated into the squad builder.

So give it a rest.


Agreed, I've heard about the BM bashing Gamers, and visa versa, but I havent seen it either. Well said.
RannKonnar
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 2:54:56 AM
Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member
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Joined: 12/17/2008
Posts: 761
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Demosthenes wrote:
Boris wrote:
It's not that I don't appreciate him. It's that I don't think he appreciates the community or the people who are working the hardest to keep the game going for what's left of us, and I believe that it makes him smile that this site serves as a sounding board for the people who hate us the most. That saddens me.

If this site and all that it stands for is solely and exclusively "the future," as some of you here demand it be, then I want no part of it.


You see, I usually stay out of these BM vs. Gamers battles since I use and like both sites for what they offer, but I put my foot down on this comment.

I've heard from several Gamers patrons about how BlooMilk has regular Gamers-bashing threads, and acts as if the entire site is on one big Gamers-bashing binge. I don't see it, and I don't appreciate the straw man argument that you're presenting, and to be quite frank, I wish everyone would shut up about BlooMilk bashing Gamers and vice versa. It's not productive, and it doesn't foster cooperation.

We're all playing a GAME. Keep that in mind. We're not arguing foreign policy or deciding the federal budget. If you don't like what stance has been taken towards the future of the game on this site, then I'm sorry, but your comments are not constructive or helpful in any way. I'm sure this is mostly a product of Shinja being busy and having a lot on his plate. As he said in his post over at Gamers, he built the site because he wanted a useful tool, he didn't want to become an Administrator and lord over everyone.

Besides, when the V-Sets come out, I guarantee you'll see support for them on these forums, and they'll probably be integrated into the squad builder.

So give it a rest.

your right.
sorry all i shouldve just not argued.
i was just trying to make a point that Shinja does care, but obviously it wont make a difference.
this is just a gaming website were we talk about SWM and fun stuff.
Lets all just not argue.
Boris
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:29:53 AM
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Joined: 12/18/2008
Posts: 153
Please quote the post where I suggested it is "BM vs. Gamers." Please quote the post where I said the moderators at BM were somehow part of my issue.

Never did I suggest such a thing. You guys are reading what you want into what was actually said (which is a big part of the problem, IMO).

The entire community needs to be working together, not any particular website. My comments about Shinja are not solely about Bloomilk, though it is a part of the larger issue.

I also made note of the fact that for all the rush to criticism of my comments and the inferred sentiments of those comments, no one ever really said my assessment was wrong, or tried to offer a counter-point.
LoboStele
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:11:08 AM
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Joined: 4/3/2008
Posts: 584
Location: Cincinnati, OH
No one brought the 'BM vs Gamers' thing into the discussion, except the people who are almost exclusively BM users. There's constantly this feeling with some people that it's always an 'us vs them' mentality, and until THOSE people let go of that feeling, we will always have division between the different websites, unfortunately.

Many of us (myself included) don't really give a flip which website we're on. We enjoy discussing the game with all the various players involved.

The other comments in this thread were simply meant to be helpful criticism to make Bloomilk better. Let's just leave it at that without dragging ANY other websites into the mix.


For what it's worth, I REALLY liked the new drop-down animation for the front page, and I'm sad to see it revert back to the old one. Though I certainly understand the server/host issues associated with it. Hope to see it come back at some point, because that was snazzy. BigGrin BlooMilk
wannabe mexican
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:54:20 AM
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Joined: 1/10/2010
Posts: 1,153
The only reason I post more on Bloomilk than on Gamers is because to me it feels like there is more traffic over here. Although to be fair, due to time difference for me neither are really as active as other forums I have posted on. Also, the internet in my house seems to disagree with Gamers and always screws up when I go there. But I still love both the same.
shinja
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 5:05:56 AM
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Joined: 10/2/2008
Posts: 351
Location: Kent, WA
Boris wrote:
It's that I don't think he appreciates the community or the people who are working the hardest to keep the game going for what's left of us, and I believe that it makes him smile that this site serves as a sounding board for the people who hate us the most. That saddens me.

If this site and all that it stands for is solely and exclusively "the future," as some of you here demand it be, then I want no part of it.


Ouch, man. That is a very incorrect assessment of the situation. I am in full support of the new fan-based administration of SWM, and Bloo Milk will continue to provide tools to complement the game in whatever form it takes.
RannKonnar
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 5:15:16 AM
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Joined: 12/17/2008
Posts: 761
Location: Indianapolis, IN
shinja wrote:
Boris wrote:
It's that I don't think he appreciates the community or the people who are working the hardest to keep the game going for what's left of us, and I believe that it makes him smile that this site serves as a sounding board for the people who hate us the most. That saddens me.

If this site and all that it stands for is solely and exclusively "the future," as some of you here demand it be, then I want no part of it.


Ouch, man. That is a very incorrect assessment of the situation. I am in full support of the new fan-based administration of SWM, and Bloo Milk will continue to provide tools to complement the game in whatever form it takes.

I completely agree.
Tirade
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 5:20:01 AM
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Joined: 5/25/2008
Posts: 536
Location: Tracy, CA
I think there has been a long line of miscommunication between Shinja and Gamers. I do believe both want what is best for SWM's future. Bloomilk certainly has its own forum flavor (no pun intended), and I do like that it is different from Gamers.
yodaccm
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:50:02 AM
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Joined: 12/17/2008
Posts: 188
All this over the vague phrase "The future is Bloo..."? You can attach many different meanings to it. Seems to me people are projecting their own feelings towards the future of SWM onto a seemingly harmless and infinitely nebulous tag.
Darth Kaotik
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:34:18 AM
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Joined: 4/15/2010
Posts: 34
I'm sorry, but it seems to me that the whole V set initiative is being held excusively with Gamers. For example, if I want news on these Sets, I have to go to gamers to do it. I over heard someone say that this is a community as a whole, and I do not see this at all.
I have been a guest on this site for about 2 years, and all I've ever really witnessed on these forums is constant bickering and demandings from people from Gamers. How can someone even have the audacity to PUBLICLY call out the guy who created this site? Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe, he has a bigger life then just Star Wars Miniatures? I know, I know, its hard to fathom, but not everyone can wait on certain members hand and foot.
Having also been a guest on the Sith Holo news network 2 weeks ago and very seldom on Gamers, I have seen alot of Bloomilk Bashing. Yet certain folk want to come on this website and portray themselves as heroes and or victims. I'm sorry, but this Holier then thou attitude is for the birds.
Darth Jack and Shoto Parry said it best: Love it or Leave it.
Do not come on here blasting the efforts of one man who made this site completely accessable to all, including the guys who want to down it everytime they get the chance. I don't see any other site making the strides that this one has, like Squad building as a perfect example. This is not about V sets, this is about respect and having some kind of tact when presenting your issues. I mean, this guy appointed Moderators to help run this better while he takes care of the things he has to take care of. ( These same moderators go on the defensive for the guys who do nothing but complain too I might add.) So if you really have an issue with how things are here, take it up with the Moderators.
and as far as Shinja not being accessable for this V set garbage, seriously guys, get a hold of yourselves. He made this site. This site is accessable. After all, this site gets more traffic (as someone mentioned earlier) then any other mini site out there. You want to promote good humanitarian behavior? Act like adults with some respect when you feel the need to put someone on blast.
qvos
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:54:00 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2009
Posts: 1,382
Location: Detroit, Mi
I think that this got way out of hand. What was a fun thread , or maybe some fun comments turned into somehow The game being in Bloomilk's hands, to SHinja not giving a crap about the community... Seriously ???... I have to say that Although I respect Boris and others, I can't understand why the sensitivity to such a harmless comment.
"The future of SWM is Bloo" turned into all this. There is a saying," A house divided cannot stand." there doesn't have to be a divide. Everyone here and at Gamers loves SWM. Those taking the lead in the SWM community need to be positive in their approach. Both the members of Bloomilk and Gamers, some of which are the same need to remember that they are on the same team.
Crashh Niner
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 2:21:31 PM
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qvos wrote:
I think that this got way out of hand. What was a fun thread , or maybe some fun comments turned into somehow The game being in Bloomilk's hands, to SHinja not giving a crap about the community... Seriously ???... I have to say that Although I respect Boris and others, I can't understand why the sensitivity to such a harmless comment.
"The future of SWM is Bloo" turned into all this. There is a saying," A house divided cannot stand." there doesn't have to be a divide. Everyone here and at Gamers loves SWM. Those taking the lead in the SWM community need to be positive in their approach. Both the members of Bloomilk and Gamers, some of which are the same need to remember that they are on the same team.
imyurhukaberry
Posted: Thursday, April 22, 2010 2:50:50 PM
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Groups: Member , Moderator

Joined: 5/8/2008
Posts: 2,220
Location: East Coast
All this makes me think of that scene in Braveheart where William Wallace is talking to Robert Bruce...
"Unite the clans!"

SWM will survive or die because of it's fans. Therefore it's up to ALL of us to keep it going. I will continue to support the game by any means possible...which can, may and will involve supporting multiple websites dedicated to this awesome game. BlooMilk
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