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thereisnotry wrote:So, is this the final round of the tournament (plus top 4)? yes this is the last round, then we'll have semis and a final.
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TheHutts wrote:Dr Daman wrote: TimmerB123: 6 pts. (2-1) vs. Mike Moore Smauggler: 6 pts. (2-1)
Is Smauggler Mike's official title now? Does he smuggle Smaugs? Is there more than one Smaug? Desolation of SmaugglerMike?
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I just played my game with Deathwielded. He conceded after I killed his Cad Bane in the 3rd round.
Thereisnotry --Episode V: The Canadians Strike Back-- 27 Admiral Daala 20 Admiral Piett 16 Admiral Gilad Pellaeon 16 Grand Admiral Rulf Yage (dropped for the Repulsor Sled) 14 Imperial Officer 14 Snowtrooper Commander 12 Snowtrooper Officer 8 Mas Amedda 8 R7 Astromech Droid 60 Snowtrooper x12 3 Ugnaught Demolitionist (198pts. 22 activations)
Deathwielded --Deathwielded Vong-- 54 Cad Bane 34 Nom Anor 30 Supreme Overlord Quorreal 29 Viqi Shesh 19 Yomin Carr 17 Peace Brigade Soldier 16 Yuuzhan Vong Worker x4
Reinforcements: 8 Zonoma Sekot Scout x2 12 Yuuzhan Vong Worker x4 19 Galactic Alliance Special Forces Trooper (199pts. 17 activations)
We played on my map (Bothan Spynet) and he chose to set up on the right. After setup I dropped GARY for the Sled, which shot his Peace Brigade Soldier twice (via the Imp Officer's CE), which blew up, killing a Zonoma Scout (which had Stealth via Ooglith Masquer), which blew up, killing a Worker, which blew up putting 20dmg on Cad. I lost the next init, so DW's GASFT intuitioned up to double attack, but he barely missed both attacks, so my Sled survived. I charged in to base Cad and hit the first attack, but then rolled a 3 to miss on the Imp Officer attack, so Cad lived with 30hp. I managed to pick off a few of DW's reinforcement pieces toward the end of that round and the beginning of the third. Then, in the end of the third round I charged a Snowtrooper up to base Cad; DW's Worker hit with a 19 on an aoo, but I made my poison save. That allowed me to make the killing shot on Cad, after which DW conceded. 3pt win for me, 200-24.
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Bah! I played Richie (Rattlehead) last night in the Epic Battle for Last Place! I ran: http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/139229/rule-of-two while he showed up wi' http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/139643/hmmm. I won map and we battled on Rhen Var. I chose that map because I don't think I've ever won on it and I will keep hammering at it until I do! Did I win...? No. Richie played well and pretty much won with a double lightning strike at the start and end of two rounds with Dray that put a very difficult 60 damage on both Bane and Zannah. Bane is monster enough that I was able to take out Jarael, Dray and Luke with little to no effort, but the damage I took including all that autodamage (autodamage is cool) left him on 20 which Ganner casually forcepushed out of him to win the game. 215-133, Richie the victor in a 3-1 win. That means I am 4-10 this season! Including 1-7 from both LowerHuttaCon and the NZ Vassal! Holy moly... anyhoo, well played Rich. My wife did make the comment that perhaps we brought out something special since we knew we were playing for bottom place! Rock and/or Roll.
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Ultrastar just beat me 37-14 on Asteroid Base.
I ran this cool Daala hate squad --Do you feel bucky, punk?-- 51 Yoda on Kybuck 27 Lobot 23 Captain Panaka 20 Captain Tarpals 16 Qui-Gon Jinn, Force Spirit 11 Clone Trooper with Flamethrower 9 R2-D2, Astromech Droid 8 Mas Amedda 8 R7 Astromech Droid 6 Mouse Droid x2 18 Rodian Brute x6 3 Ugnaught Demolitionist
(200pts. 18 activations)
And Ultrastar ran Cad/Talon/Thrawn/Lobot/Ozzel.
It was a really boring game. The only thing keeping me from nodding off was the fact that Bronson is a cool guy and I was eating lasagne. Basically every round I did lame stuff and then Bronson swapped in Cad to kill stuff, then intuition next round, then outactivate and do the same. I couldn't beat his door control and tempo control while not being able to swap around Talon. It would have been an even longer, more boring game if we had gone over the 75 minutes. Thank God for timed games.
*NOTE* I'm not trying to be a sore loser. Sorry if I come across as a little kid packing a sad because he lost a Star Wars game.
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Wow, Talon in an Imperial squad is really interesting. Means you really only have one proper attacker, but giving Cad Intuition and getting disruptive does introduce some interesting dynamics.
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TheHutts wrote:Wow, Talon in an Imperial squad is really interesting. Means you really only have one proper attacker, but giving Cad Intuition and getting disruptive does introduce some interesting dynamics. Yeah, that's what I thought. theultrastar tends to think QUITE outside the box.
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I usually always lose map, tonight I won, and got Asteroid Base against Darth O. Talon in Imps with Cad gives Cad an advantage against squads that usually beat him with Arica. I bunched up Lobot and Mas, surrounded them with my higher HP pieces, Kept Talon around them. Then like Darth O said, played basic Black and Blue, wait, wait, wait, run my swap piece out, swap Cad kill run away. Init, intuition even further away, and repeat.
Darth O didn't give me a lot to shoot at, and the one time he gave me Yoda I put 60 on him only to have Dr E brought in and heal him 60. It's about time I get a win against you O, I have the worst luck against you. Usually in our games, I cannot make a roll higher than 5, and O rolls nothing lower than a 14. So it was definitely time for me to get a win in haha.
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Just got my game in against mando
I was running Durge, lancer, sideous and poggle bombs against his Shakeal vong squad.
I won 86 to 66.
we played on Rhen Var
I brought in an MTB and it was just hard for the melee gong to keep up with the lancers. I've not really seen a game with such biased save rolls. I made all mine and he failed all his. I was even hitting with geonosians on his squad. Still his gong stuck it out, killed the lancer and most of my drones but Durge was able to kill off enough points to keep ahead. Mando played well and the Tsaos limited the lancers effectiveness but then the bombs didn't really have any disruptive to worry about and so did the major damage against the high vong D.
I thought that my squad would be able to make damage stick quicker than it did but the vong are nothing if not stoic and the game ended with Shak still with 60 hp left chasing Durge around.
Thanks for the game, dude!
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fingersandteeth wrote:Just got my game in against mando
I was running Durge, lancer, sideous and poggle bombs against his Shakeal vong squad.
I won 86 to 66.
we played on Rhen Var
I brought in an MTB and it was just hard for the melee gong to keep up with the lancers. I've not really seen a game with such biased save rolls. I made all mine and he failed all his. I was even hitting with geonosians on his squad. Still his gong stuck it out, killed the lancer and most of my drones but Durge was able to kill off enough points to keep ahead. Mando played well and the Tsaos limited the lancers effectiveness but then the bombs didn't really have any disruptive to worry about and so did the major damage against the high vong D.
I thought that my squad would be able to make damage stick quicker than it did but the vong are nothing if not stoic and the game ended with Shak still with 60 hp left chasing Durge around.
Thanks for the game, dude! Very good game! Deri played his squad very well, and his squad proved to be to much for my squad to handle. A geonosian drone squad is probably the worst case scenario for Vong to face, and he hardly needed to use his lancers in the game, since the drones just blew up whenever Deri won init. I tried to kill as many as I could using the limited ranged attacks I had, but the little drones had a knack for rolling saves tonight (one drone survived 4 thud bugs).I on the other had had a horrible time making saves. I was getting a bit frustrated during the game after failing just about every single VCA save. I had a chance about 40 minutes into the game to win. I had a advanced scout run up and thud bug his Durge. He made the save and next activation, he quickly ran him to safety. Had I activated his Durge, I would have killed Durge easily, and the game would have looked much different. Sometimes in bad matchups you just need to take a chance, and 50/50 is the best odds I could have taken against probably the worst matchup my squad could face. Even though I lost I had a great time playing against a great player. Deri is a very classy gentleman and it was a pleasure to play a match against him! Great game!
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Sharron and I just had our as-always EPIC match! I won 200-12 but don't let the score fool ya.
He was running
--Winter is Coming-- 62 Obi-Wan Kenobi, Jedi Negotiator 38 Anakin Skywalker, the Chosen One 27 Lobot 20 Captain Tarpals 16 Dr. Evazan, Galactic Criminal 16 Qui-Gon Jinn, Force Spirit 9 R2-D2, Astromech Droid 3 Mouse Droid 3 Rodian Brute 6 Ugnaught Demolitionist x2
(200pts. 11 activations)
While I had
--Cane and Able-- 63 Darth Bane, Sith'ari 54 Darth Caedus, Sith Lord 30 Vergere 17 Marka Ragnos, Dark Force Spirit 14 Exar Kun, Dark Force Spirit 16 Sith Recruit x4 6 Ugnaught Demolitionist x2
(200pts. 11 activations)
First round was positioning for both of us. I decided to "turtle" in the second round to try and build up some Force Points on my spirits, Bane and Caedus. Sharron moved into gambit and waited..... The brilliant part of his squad design is using Dr E to HS30 twice on someone and then use Qui-Gon to win initiative and do it again. 120 auto damage is had to deal with! I had given Caedus VCA so unless I failed 3 saves, he couldn't kill him (plus, depending on FP's, I should be able to Aing-Tii and kill him). In the middle of the third round I made my move. Caedus used his battle med twice to move Bane up, then bane made an 8 square Leaping Assault to get next to the good Dr. I hit both attacks and the Dr failed his Avoid Defeat save. That was probably the game deciding moment. If he had have made the save, Bane or Caedus were getting hit for a lot of damage and the game would've tipped in Sharron's favour. Sharron almost took out Marka, DFS using Quiggy and after failing his FPRR, a recruit was destroyed to keep him in the game! He then used Obi to attack Bane as Marka was too far away to provide Illusion. Obi hit twice and Bane Djem So'd him back both times with overwhelming for 80dmg. Vergere healed Bane and some other pieces were moved or spun and R2 flew Obi out of the fray. Round four and I won initiative, but Sharron used Quiggy to take it. He ran Anakin next to Bane and popped Dark Temptation. Hit the first, but Ani failed the illusion save. Hit the second and bane was down to 100HP (failed both Djem so saves). Ani moved away and Bane hit him for 40 leaving Ani on 70 but he made his DT save. I healed Bane and used Caedus to go after the Klat he had brought in with Lobot. Sharron flew Obi back in and hit Bane for 30 but he made his Djem save and used overwhelming to finish him off. Bane leaped next to Ani and used overwhelming again to kill him and at that point Sharron conceded. Sharron is a great player, a stand-up guy and I'm proud to call him a friend. We always have truly epic battles!! Good luck in the Semi's mate!!
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I totally love that Bane squad! It sounds like it plays JUST how the Sith should: aggressive, relentless, and painful to attack.
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Dr Daman wrote:Sharron and I just had our as-always EPIC match! I won 200-12 but don't let the score fool ya.
He was running
--Winter is Coming-- 62 Obi-Wan Kenobi, Jedi Negotiator 38 Anakin Skywalker, the Chosen One 27 Lobot 20 Captain Tarpals 16 Dr. Evazan, Galactic Criminal 16 Qui-Gon Jinn, Force Spirit 9 R2-D2, Astromech Droid 3 Mouse Droid 3 Rodian Brute 6 Ugnaught Demolitionist x2
(200pts. 11 activations)
While I had
--Cane and Able-- 63 Darth Bane, Sith'ari 54 Darth Caedus, Sith Lord 30 Vergere 17 Marka Ragnos, Dark Force Spirit 14 Exar Kun, Dark Force Spirit 16 Sith Recruit x4 6 Ugnaught Demolitionist x2
(200pts. 11 activations)
First round was positioning for both of us. I decided to "turtle" in the second round to try and build up some Force Points on my spirits, Bane and Caedus. Sharron moved into gambit and waited..... The brilliant part of his squad design is using Dr E to HS30 twice on someone and then use Qui-Gon to win initiative and do it again. 120 auto damage is had to deal with! I had given Caedus VCA so unless I failed 3 saves, he couldn't kill him (plus, depending on FP's, I should be able to Aing-Tii and kill him). In the middle of the third round I made my move. Caedus used his battle med twice to move Bane up, then bane made an 8 square Leaping Assault to get next to the good Dr. I hit both attacks and the Dr failed his Avoid Defeat save. That was probably the game deciding moment. If he had have made the save, Bane or Caedus were getting hit for a lot of damage and the game would've tipped in Sharron's favour. Sharron almost took out Marka, DFS using Quiggy and after failing his FPRR, a recruit was destroyed to keep him in the game! He then used Obi to attack Bane as Marka was too far away to provide Illusion. Obi hit twice and Bane Djem So'd him back both times with overwhelming for 80dmg. Vergere healed Bane and some other pieces were moved or spun and R2 flew Obi out of the fray. Round four and I won initiative, but Sharron used Quiggy to take it. He ran Anakin next to Bane and popped Dark Temptation. Hit the first, but Ani failed the illusion save. Hit the second and bane was down to 100HP (failed both Djem so saves). Ani moved away and Bane hit him for 40 leaving Ani on 70 but he made his DT save. I healed Bane and used Caedus to go after the Klat he had brought in with Lobot. Sharron flew Obi back in and hit Bane for 30 but he made his Djem save and used overwhelming to finish him off. Bane leaped next to Ani and used overwhelming again to kill him and at that point Sharron conceded. Sharron is a great player, a stand-up guy and I'm proud to call him a friend. We always have truly epic battles!! Good luck in the Semi's mate!! It is always epic :D it just seems you have the run on me, I can't seem to beat you!! Thanks for the game man you played very well :) good luck to you also. And I hope I meet you in the final ;)
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Very late last night (US time) Mike Moore Smuggler (Smaugler?) had our match.
I ran - --A bad case of the Klats-- 33 Bastila Shan, Jedi Master 27 Lobot 13 Jawa Scavenger 12 Gha Nachkt 72 Klatooinian Assassin x6 12 Rodian Assassin 14 R7 Astromech Droid x2 3 Ugnaught Demolitionist 14 Mouse Droid x7
He ran -
--Speedy Durge 200-- 56 Durge on Speeder 35 Asajj Ventress, Nightsister 27 Lobot 16 BX Commando Droid Spotter 15 BX Commando Droid Sniper 10 San Hill 9 Poggle the Lesser 6 Ugnaught Demolitionist x2 26 Geonosian Drone x13
We played on Asteroid Base. He brings MTB + 4 mice, I bring 10 mice.
First round set-up, second round he unlocks the door on my side with Lobot and gets a nasty strafe off, killing an R7, my Rodian, and 3 klats (taking 60 damage), then hops off as Durge JH. I miss a key shot with 1 Klat and can't kill him, but I do hit with another and base him with 20 damage left. I turn on AMB, kill his Lobot with my Jawa scavenger, and I kill a couple drones. He auto wins init and suicides himself with durge on the klat, leaving me with only 2 klats, bastila, gha, R7, Lobot, an uggie, and 17 mice. He moves into gambit with Assaj. Play cat and mouse a bit, killing the drones I can while ABM is on. End of the second to last round of the game - very tight score, ABM finally runs out, and he bases a klat with 2 drones. He was set to win the game by 2 points, but instead, he MAKES his save with the second drone after auto-killing the first with his MTB, and the klat lives. He kills my R7 with his sniper and we both move into gambit and thus I win by a final score of 106-104 due to his bad luck at the end. Regardless it was a very close game. Thanks to Mike for being a good sport.
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NPE vs NPE. NPE for the win! Seriously, though. Great write-up.
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So with Mike and Tim's game complete, we come to the end of the Swiss rounds! Before we get into the semis and final, I'd like to say that it's been an absolute blast to have you guys from all over the globe featuring in our little SWM Vassal battle. I know it's been hard for some you to organise times with us here in little old NZ and I appreciate everyone's patience when a couple of the rounds went longer than expected. I hope you all had fun and are keen to do this all again next season!! With out further ado, here are the standings after Swiss. 1) Dr Daman: 11 pts. (4-0) 2) TimmerB123: 8 pts. (3-1) 3) Sharron: 7pts. (3-1) 4) fingersandteeth: 7 pts. (3-1) 5) Mike Moore Smuggler: 7 pts. (2-2) 6) theultrastar: 6 pts. (3-1) 7) thereisnotry: 6 pts. (2-2) 8) Mando: 5 pts (2-2) 9) DieAndBeMetal: 5 pts. (2-2) 10) DarthRattlehead: 5 pts. (1-3) 11) Darth O: 3 pts. (1-3) 12) Deathwielded: 3 pts. (1-3) 13) racanelli89: 2 pts. (1-3) 14) Kezzamachine: 2 pts. (0-4) So now this is where I'll need the help of the community. How do I separate the players on 7 points to find the final 2 slots for the semis? Sharron and fingersandteeth both have a higher win percentage than Mike. Mike has the most 3 point victories with 2 while Sharron and fingersandteeth both have 1 (finger's one comes from a bye though). Sharron looks like he had the toughest matchups so he'd take strength-of-schedule followed by Mike then fingersandteeth. So which one is the deciding factor??
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The official Star Wars™ Miniatures SWMGPA (Star Wars Miniatures Gamers Players Association) floor rules say this:
Standings Standings in a tournament, for declaring a tournament winner, shall be determined by match points. In the event of multiple players being tied for match points the following shall be used to determine the final standings:
1. Match Win Points – The player with the most match points. (Though here in the US we use 3/2 system, and obviously NZ and this uses the 3/2/1 system)
2. Match Win Percentage – The player with the highest match winning percentage. (In other words, record)
3. Completed Victories – The player with highest number completed victories during the tournament (games in which 3 match points were achieved) (3 pt victories)
4. Head to Head Matchups – The player who has won any head to head matchups would be ahead of the loser in a head to head matchup.
5. Opponents Match Win Percentage – The player with the highest opponent match winning percentage.
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Based on the above, Sharron, Mike Morre Smuggler (Smauggler) and Fingersandteeth are all tied for (#1) match win points, but Mike has a lower match win percentage (record), so Mike is 5th. (Sorry Mike)
Fingers and Sharron are tied in (#2) Match win percentage, as well as (#3) completed victories (Bye counts as a completed victory. Can't punish a player for having the bad luck of getting a bye).
They never played head-to-head, so (#4) is moot.
So good old SoS (sigh). Always a crappy tie-breaker, but what can you do.
Fingers opponents: Ultrastar(3-1), Darth O (1-3), (Bye), Mando (2-2) = (6-6) 50%
Sharron's opponents: Darth O (1-3), TimmerB123 (3-1), Deathwielded (1-3), Dr. Daman (4-0) = (9-8) 58.8235%
So - by a hair Sharron is 3rd and Fingersandteeth is 4th.
(If you are going by the The official Star Wars™ Miniatures SWMGPA (Star Wars Miniatures Gamers Players Association) floor rules, minus the already noted excepted of using 3-2-1 scoring)
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Thanks for walking through that, Tim.
Congrats to you top-4-ers!
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TimmerB123 wrote:Based on the above, Sharron, Mike Morre Smuggler (Smauggler) and Fingersandteeth are all tied for (#1) match win points, but Mike has a lower match win percentage (record), so Mike is 5th. (Sorry Mike)
Fingers and Sharron are tied in (#2) Match win percentage, as well as (#3) completed victories (Bye counts as a completed victory. Can't punish a player for having the bad luck of getting a bye).
They never played head-to-head, so (#4) is moot.
So good old SoS (sigh). Always a crappy tie-breaker, but what can you do.
Fingers opponents: Ultrastar(3-1), Darth O (1-3), (Bye), Mando (2-2) = (6-6) 50%
Sharron's opponents: Darth O (1-3), TimmerB123 (3-1), Deathwielded (1-3), Dr. Daman (4-0) = (9-8) 58.8235%
So - by a hair Sharron is 3rd and Fingersandteeth is 4th.
(If you are going by the The official Star Wars™ Miniatures SWMGPA (Star Wars Miniatures Gamers Players Association) floor rules, minus the already noted excepted of using 3-2-1 scoring) wow, thanks a lot for your help Tim! I shall bookmark this info for future reference. 👊
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