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Can you blow up a door that you cannot see (no LOS) with these abilities? At the WISC regional, we played it that you could as we didn't see anything anywhere that said anything different.
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The wording does not say. I'd have gone with LOS. Just makes more sense, unless these abilities can hunt down doors.
Be neat if there was an ability that blew up a door at the end of your turn: mark a door for demo, run away, BOOM!
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I know for fire jelly, you don't have to see the door. I guess it would work the same with thorium charge since it doesn't say anything about sight.
Does the glossary say something different?
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I just looked up Firejelly on wookieepedia. Seems like the canonical use is exactly the opposite of the SWM use. It's used for torture or welding. So it should seal up a door instead of blowing it open. Must be some special industrial strength Firejelly.
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where are the rules lawyers when you need 'em? 
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In the books they used fire jelly at one point to destroy a bunch of computers and droids...
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jak wrote:where are the rules lawyers when you need 'em? Rules Lawyering says that the text does not say line of sight is required. Targeting rules imply line of sight, but this is a door, not a character so it's not targeting. Common sense makes me think you should need line of sight, but in this game I usually go with text over common sense. (I guess you could easily picture it as stepping around a corner and tossing a charge or firejelly at the door and then stepping back.) And usually when text and common sense conflict I go with whatever Sithborg said, but I don't think he's ever addressed it directly. (I could be wrong, though.)
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Incidentally, how do you count distance to a door?
If you are character X and O is an open square and | is a door that is the right-hand line of the second open square, is that distance 2 from X? That is how I would count it.
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If you are character X and O is an open square and | is a door that you could open from the second open square, but is not one of the four lines around that square, is that distance 3 from X? That is how I would count it.
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A door adjacent like this is distance 0: X|
A door adjacent like this is distance 1: X_
Is that correct?
In other words, I would count distance as the distance to a square such that the door is one of the four lines around that square. It is not sufficient to count to a square 'adjacent' to the door in the sense that you could open the door from that square. Does that sound right?
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the ruling for fire jelly was that the door had to be one of the 4 sides of the square that was 3 away (or closer)
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urbanjedi wrote:the ruling for fire jelly was that the door had to be one of the 4 sides of the square that was 3 away (or closer) Cool. That's what I thought it would be.
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