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dreadtech
Posted: Monday, October 6, 2014 3:43:45 AM
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Been away for some time so this has probably been asked all ready but what do you think of star wars rebels? To keep this thread in this forum instead of off topic, do you want to see these characters as new cards in the next few vsets. Also if so what faction should they be in, all fringe, all rebels or mixed amount several factions?
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Posted: Monday, October 6, 2014 4:25:02 AM
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I assume it will be very similar in style and quality to the Clone Wars series. I have only seen the trailer with the tie fighter thing, and wasn't really impressed, as it seemed for slapstick and lighthearted than the clone war series. But the Clone Wars series was very unbalanced, in that sometimes i felt I was watching a saturday morning cartoon, and sometimes an extension of the PG-13 episode III. I'll hold any real opinion until I give it a chance. With any luck, it'll be solid.

Wondering, do you know how it will air? Do you have to have the disney channel or can we watch online?
Amadeus
Posted: Monday, October 6, 2014 5:05:05 AM
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I watched it online a few days ago, I wasn't exactly impressed by it myself but who knows you guys might like it

It aired on October 3rd on disney and live streamed online.

This is where I saw it (mostly because I was already on the site), there are probably more legitamite sites. Its on YouTube too.
http://www.watchcartoononline.com/star-wars-rebels-episode-1-2-spark-of-rebellion

Mando
Posted: Monday, October 6, 2014 6:07:57 AM
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I watched it yesterday, and overall I think it was a solid start to the sereis, but I wish the Empire was a little more threatening. f course in Star Wars the Clone Wars TV show the Seps started out as bumbling idiots to and weren't all that threatening to, but as the series progressed the seps became a bigger threat. Hopefully that is the case with the Empire in this tv show, which I think is going to happen. It'll be interesting to see where the series goes. I hope they don't pull of any more of the Rebels docking inside a Star Destroyer and then leaving whenever they want supposedly. That just doesn't make any sense. If they do that some more, I'll be annoyed. It seemed a bit rushed in some parts of the episode to, like stuff was moving too quick from scene to scene as if they needed to cut a lot of content to fit it into the 40 min time.
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Posted: Monday, October 6, 2014 6:31:46 AM
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I really enjoyed it. Love the time period. Great to see the Imps back. Baddies that you actually care about. Unlike the Clone Wars, this show introduced all new characters so you have to get to know these characters first, where the Clone Wars started out with well known characters. There is so much potential for this show. I can't wait for the next episode. I was glad to hear they got the green light for season 2. It's a very good time for Star Wars fans. New cannon novels, new show, and new movies just around the corner.
theultrastar
Posted: Monday, October 6, 2014 6:33:34 AM
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Mando wrote:
I watched it yesterday, and overall I think it was a solid start to the sereis, but I wish the Empire was a little more threatening. f course in Star Wars the Clone Wars TV show the Seps started out as bumbling idiots to and weren't all that threatening to, but as the series progressed the seps became a bigger threat. Hopefully that is the case with the Empire in this tv show, which I think is going to happen. It'll be interesting to see where the series goes. I hope they don't pull of any more of the Rebels docking inside a Star Destroyer and then leaving whenever they want supposedly. That just doesn't make any sense. If they do that some more, I'll be annoyed. It seemed a bit rushed in some parts of the episode to, like stuff was moving too quick from scene to scene as if they needed to cut a lot of content to fit it into the 40 min time.


They did blow some explosives on their exit, perhaps that shut down the Tractor beam. That's what I got out of it. Agent Kallus is clearly threatening them, and then they blow the explosives and the Imps can't pull them back in.
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I watched it online and I thought as far as series premieres went that it was a decent start to the show. Obviously I am interested to see what the Inquisitor brings to the fray. The lightsaber work needs a little refining as it was sort of an obtuse waving of a saber catching some stray bolts. It will be interesting to see how they develop the characters as it goes on, but I feel it has a lot of potential.
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Posted: Monday, October 6, 2014 8:57:41 AM
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theultrastar wrote:
Mando wrote:
I watched it yesterday, and overall I think it was a solid start to the sereis, but I wish the Empire was a little more threatening. f course in Star Wars the Clone Wars TV show the Seps started out as bumbling idiots to and weren't all that threatening to, but as the series progressed the seps became a bigger threat. Hopefully that is the case with the Empire in this tv show, which I think is going to happen. It'll be interesting to see where the series goes. I hope they don't pull of any more of the Rebels docking inside a Star Destroyer and then leaving whenever they want supposedly. That just doesn't make any sense. If they do that some more, I'll be annoyed. It seemed a bit rushed in some parts of the episode to, like stuff was moving too quick from scene to scene as if they needed to cut a lot of content to fit it into the 40 min time.


They did blow some explosives on their exit, perhaps that shut down the Tractor beam. That's what I got out of it. Agent Kallus is clearly threatening them, and then they blow the explosives and the Imps can't pull them back in.


I was thinking more of the second time they get on the Star Destroyer. I might have missed soemthing, but how in the world did they get docked so easily and then leave just as easily? I understand the first time they blew up the prisoner transport and that knocked out the tractor beam but the second time in 40 minutes jsut seemed a bit odd.
Lord_Ball
Posted: Monday, October 6, 2014 11:10:47 AM
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Yeah I have to say it was a fun watch, but overall was hurt by so many glaring issues. The ineptitude of the Imperials and their shooting prowess is a far cry from "only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise".
theultrastar
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Lord_Ball wrote:
Yeah I have to say it was a fun watch, but overall was hurt by so many glaring issues. The ineptitude of the Imperials and their shooting prowess is a far cry from "only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise".


Well lets be fair, Imperial Stormtroopers were not exactly crack shots in any of the movies. For instance when Vader kills Kenobi, and Luke stands out in front of the Falcon while like 8 troopers shoot at him.
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yeah I know the "bad guys" are always lousy shots, it's just when Kanan emerged from behind the boxes casually strolling toward them it was almost as ridiculous as the aforementioned re-docking on the ISD, and made me think Obi-wan clearly didn't mean these guys when he said that line in A New Hope.
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Posted: Monday, October 6, 2014 12:08:40 PM
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I think this series will prove to be excellent and surprise a lot of people, just like how Star Wars the Clone Wars did. If you look back, the first 2 seasons of Star Wars weren't excellent. (well the last 1/4 of season 2 was great but for the most part Season 2 wasn't anything spectacular). But SWTCW got progressively better as it went on and became more geared to the adult star wars fans. The amount of kid oriented episodes diminished. So for now it may seem that the show isn't as good as Star Wars the Clone Wars but I'm confindent in the director/writers of Rebels that this series will be as good and maybe better than Clone Wars was. I'm looking forward to the next episodes.
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Posted: Monday, October 6, 2014 12:11:54 PM
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Lord_Ball wrote:
Yeah I have to say it was a fun watch, but overall was hurt by so many glaring issues. The ineptitude of the Imperials and their shooting prowess is a far cry from "only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise".


I agree I watched it and I have to say regardless of how new the 'new order' is I doubt they were that pathetic. What a galactic problem! Bullies who can't shoot, (only hit 1 guy in the whole show, a non-unique wookiee) Star Destroyers that are basicly just a landing platform any random reabel ship can dock on and do whatever they want. (they supposed to be huge threats and nothing to sneeze at) I mean come on, virtually no defensive measures on that thing? Really?

I know this is supposed to be a kids show but really, do we need to start the show of by showing that the Imperials are totally pathetic and don't pose a threat at all? This rag tag group has more coordination and skill then the entire Imperial forces (who train for that kind of stuff)

I'm not a fan of introducing a totally new jedi that survived Order 66. (another one) It was supposed to be incredibly difficult to survive. I wonder how many Jedi actually survived Order 66. I could see perhaps a dozen or maybe 2. But with all these more random Jedi they keep creating it looks like 30-60 survived, which should be enough to restart the order and combat the Empire right?


*Spoiler*


Saddest thing is we know all these jedi are going to probably die as the don't make it into the original trilogy.

I'm gonna keep watching, but I don't have high hopes at this point.

As to how they might be represented in mini's I think we would need to wait and see what potential they have later on and we probably won't see any of these new characters until V-set 11 at the earliest.
theultrastar
Posted: Monday, October 6, 2014 12:32:25 PM
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Lord_Ball wrote:
yeah I know the "bad guys" are always lousy shots, it's just when Kanan emerged from behind the boxes casually strolling toward them it was almost as ridiculous as the aforementioned re-docking on the ISD, and made me think Obi-wan clearly didn't mean these guys when he said that line in A New Hope.


He was using the force to dodge the shots. Which if you go by Luke using the force to guide his lightsaber to deflect his training droid's shots in A New Hope all while having the blast shields down so he couldn't see, than this doesn't seem that far fetched.

As far as The Rebels docking on the Star Destroyer, from what I remember even Agent Kallus was surprised, perhaps the ship has a stealth, or cloaking device that makes it not show up on their computer readouts, the ship is named Ghost, after all.
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I agree with Deathwielded, I don't like it that new Jedi who survived order 66 keep getting introduced.
The only way I can reconcile that with myself is that the 30-60 who survived the initial Order 66 were hunted by Vader and the Inquisitors.
I mean, in an ENTIRE GALAXY, I guess it makes sense that at least 30 survived, especially the ones on diplomatic missions or Jedi who had nothing to do with the Clone Wars.

Also, I'm not entirely clear about when REBELS falls into the timeline, because if it's recently after Ep. 3 than the stormtroopers should still mostly be clones, and decent attackers.
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obiwan1knight wrote:
I agree with Deathwielded, I don't like it that new Jedi who survived order 66 keep getting introduced.
The only way I can reconcile that with myself is that the 30-60 who survived the initial Order 66 were hunted by Vader and the Inquisitors.
I mean, in an ENTIRE GALAXY, I guess it makes sense that at least 30 survived, especially the ones on diplomatic missions or Jedi who had nothing to do with the Clone Wars.

Also, I'm not entirely clear about when REBELS falls into the timeline, because if it's recently after Ep. 3 than the stormtroopers should still mostly be clones, and decent attackers.


I think the timeline has to be around 5 or more years after the clone wars or something like that. Full complete star destroyer's and tie fighters as well as stormtrooper armor suggests a decent amount of time has passed (as well as Grand Moff Tarken being in power long enough to have something named after him)

I think its entirely possible for a larger amount of Jedi to survive order 66 if they were the ones not involved with the war. And Vader and those inquisitors needed something to hunt for the next 15 years. I just don't like how they added an entirely unheard of Jedi that survived.

I wonder if there is a is a list of all the confirmed survivors of order 66 somewhere?
Deaths_Baine
Posted: Monday, October 6, 2014 1:58:22 PM
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heres something I found:

The exact number of Jedi who survived the Purge is uncertain, since Expanded Universe material featuring survivors of Order 66 is still being produced. Wookieepedia lists 105 confirmed survivors as of 1 BBY, just before A New Hope. This number is misleading in part because it includes former Jedi who had left the Jedi Order before the time of the Purge. However, even when one eliminates survivors who were exiled, fell to the dark side, or otherwise no longer identified as Jedi, the number of survivors is just under 80.
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I would like to see some of the big characters like Ferus, and Jax come into play, but I don't think we will. Kanan has basically replaced them. His armor even looks like Ferus a little, and he has a force-sensitive Twi'lek companion and teen. I wouldn't rule out characters like K'Kruhk though, maybe Quinlan as he was in the Clone Wars? If they still like The Force Unleashed maybe we could get Kota and Starkiller? Probably not Starkiller, this seems to be set only a couple of years after Episode III.
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I thought that Rebels took place 5 years before ANH? Sitting here now, I can't remember where I came up with that. Maybe it was in conjunction with something said when he revealed himself as a Jedi and someone from the imperials said something about how long it has been since a Jedi has been spotted?
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theultrastar wrote:
Lord_Ball wrote:
yeah I know the "bad guys" are always lousy shots, it's just when Kanan emerged from behind the boxes casually strolling toward them it was almost as ridiculous as the aforementioned re-docking on the ISD, and made me think Obi-wan clearly didn't mean these guys when he said that line in A New Hope.


He was using the force to dodge the shots.


That would be a reasonable explanation for the 2 instances when he slightly shifts to the side but not the other 100 blaster bolts nowhere near him that he had no need to dodge... ok sure they were shooting at the others, but you would think Imperial training would include shoot the closest/easiest/not in cover target first.

It was a fun watch, and I'll definitely check out more, but in an effort to make it cool they overdid the cheese factor for me.
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