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pics to come guys but here is 4-lom
4-Lom Droid Mercenary- 35 points
Hp:110 Def:20 Atk:10 Dmg:30
SA Unique Droid Bounty Hunter +4 Careful Shot +4 Rapport (Zuckess) Stun Gas: replaces attacks. Adjacent living targets are considered activated this round and cannot make attacks of opportunity this turn. Save 11 negates. Huge or larger ignore this.
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Wow, now that is an upgrade. I think BH still is a decent option, but wow. Up to +18 for 30, never going to turn that down, and a pretty good stat boost. Stun Gas vs Paralysis is where the main call will come down to. Basing him with Jedi is not necessarily the best option, as he will be able to run away. Love him, now I just need to see Zuckuss. Thanks.
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Sithborg wrote:Wow, now that is an upgrade. I think BH still is a decent option, but wow. Up to +18 for 30, never going to turn that down, and a pretty good stat boost. Stun Gas vs Paralysis is where the main call will come down to. Basing him with Jedi is not necessarily the best option, as he will be able to run away. Love him, now I just need to see Zuckuss. Thanks. I don't see how he is so much better. +1 attack and +2 defense for 2 extra points isn't much. The +20 HP is nice though. Stun Gas is nice, but I almost prefer Paralysis. It's fun to see all these bounty hunters with so much HP though.
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Though the big question is this: How many people will make farting noises every time they use Stun Gas?
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He is a pretty solid piece. If Zuckuss is worth his points then they will go well with Whorm.
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Jediabiwan wrote:Sithborg wrote:Wow, now that is an upgrade. I think BH still is a decent option, but wow. Up to +18 for 30, never going to turn that down, and a pretty good stat boost. Stun Gas vs Paralysis is where the main call will come down to. Basing him with Jedi is not necessarily the best option, as he will be able to run away. Love him, now I just need to see Zuckuss. Thanks. I don't see how he is so much better. +1 attack and +2 defense for 2 extra points isn't much. The +20 HP is nice though. Stun Gas is nice, but I almost prefer Paralysis. It's fun to see all these bounty hunters with so much HP though. Sure, it isn't a huge leap in stats unlike the others, but +2 Def and +20 HP is definately worth the 2 points.
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Looks really solid. Twinning with Whorm or DAC will be sweet with his high attack potential. Is it just me, or was the "super paralysis" rumored to be on Zuckuss?
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EmporerDragon wrote:Though the big question is this: How many people will make farting noises every time they use Stun Gas? How does a droid crap himself.
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saeseetiin wrote:EmporerDragon wrote:Though the big question is this: How many people will make farting noises every time they use Stun Gas? How does a droid crap himself. with very special upgrades
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Roque Saber wrote:Looks really solid. Twinning with Whorm or DAC will be sweet with his high attack potential. Is it just me, or was the "super paralysis" rumored to be on Zuckuss? I think the "paralysis" being referred to in this discussion is the Paralysis SA that 4-LOM BH had, a couple of years ago. The stat upgrades (on all the BHs) are a welcome addition. But personally, I think that Paralysis is far more useful than Stun Gas, because Paralysis can take effect from across the board, while Stun Gas requires its victims to be adjacent to 4-LOM. Stun Gas also replaces attacks, whereas Paralysis is "free" whenever he shoots someone. Generally, when your single-attack shooters get based by jedi, they're toast anyway; giving this shooter (with admittedly better stats) a SA which requires adjacency just isn't going to be helping him very much, I'm afraid. If they made it replace movement (and still allow attacks), I could see it being much, much more useful.
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Paralysis is more offensive, sure. But Stun Gas makes a great way to escape dire situations, particularly when Jedi all next to you. Just like Bossk, the old isn't replaced, though it is far closer with 4-LOM than Bossk. Still need the final stats on Dengar to make a final call. So far, it does look like he will bump RS Dengar off (BH wasn't really that good).
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Sithborg wrote:So far, it does look like he will bump RS Dengar off (BH wasn't really that good). You think RS Dengar is worth his points? I'm actually curious about your opinion. Nobody seems to like him and I just wanted to know your thoughts, since you seem to know the game well.
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I'm not saying RS Dengar is good, just that he is better than BH. 15 pts doesn't give him that much. Sure some extra damage potential, but only +1 Atk and 10 HP!!!!! I like my glass shooters cheap.
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New 4-lom with GGdac= Beast mode. New IG-88 with GGDAC=Beasty Mode. New Bounty Hunter Droids & GGDAC=Da Beast Mode.
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Wow. I have to say, stun gas makes for an interesting version. Thanks for the stats falconjo!
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I like him :) but the old one seems more effective to me :)
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*Sigh* Not too impressed with the stats. As per usual, his potential is dampened by the presence of the IG-86. Stun Gas is interesting, but probably not all that useful. If he had 40 base damage, I could see a reason to run him.
I don't mind all these BH updates, but there seems to be something missing. In the case of 4-LOM, he should be around 6-8 points cheaper to see play over the IGs. The designers need to realize that. Unique droids are at such a disadvantage when compared to the non-uniques in the game. The costing needs to be aggressive. Now if the IG-86 hadn't been so aggressively costed in the first place....
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Both will have their uses but im still going to use BH 4-LOM. In a world of evade having your opponent make an extra save could make all the differance.
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so old boussh is replaced, Bossk BH is still useful, 4lom BH is stll useful and zuckuss is still useful. i like it.
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I'm suprised. I had high hopes for this guy, but he's really pretty meh.
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