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Poll Question : who's better stormie or 501st stormie?
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stormtrooper 22 50.000000 %
501st stormtrooper 22 50.000000 %

who's better stormie or 501st stormie? Options
shatterpoint7
Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:28:33 AM
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Tirade
Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2010 12:04:02 PM
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Boy, I sure hope the 501st is better. It costs twice as much as the regular stormie. Honestly, is this a fair question?
shatterpoint7
Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2010 12:17:17 PM
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oops i meant better for the cost
Roque Saber
Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2010 12:27:45 PM
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Depends. 501st Stormies require a handful of them to get the most out of the Squad abilities. Normal stormies work better as filler and activation fodder. For their respective costs I would say they are about even in usefulness (assuming you are running 501st's with the Squad abilities).
darkjacen
Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2010 1:12:59 PM
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At more than double the cost of a regular stormie it has the potential for more damage and higher attack, but for the same amount of points you get twice the number of troops. In the end it would depend on what squad your using I guess. Though personally I'd rather have more stormies of lower cost.
Squid89
Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:11:27 PM
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I would much rather have the Stormie for extra activations. The Squad abilities are always nice if you can pull them off, but are costly and hard to maintain. You need to spend at least 44 points (with no Vader) to attempt. It's hard to do it once and not have one piece sniped. Give me the 8 Stormies instead. Combined fire nets the same attack value. True the 501st can do more damage, but 2x Stormies usually require more attacks to be defeated than one 501st (the 10 to 20 HP is pretty much one hit either way with so much damage out there any more).

They each have their place, but personally, I prefer the classic.
Wysten
Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:31:55 PM
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Depends on what you plan on doing really, but ultimately depends what you want them to kill.

Want to kill other grunts? Then typical stormtroopers could probably do that role the best. After all, there are many ways to enhance a strom trooper to kill other grunts, Opptunist, Falucian Stormtrooper, basic boosts to attack and defence. With Mas, these guys can be deadly enough to weather the shots from many grunts really well in cover for a 5 point piece.

501st have interesting advantages, but lack the mass squad abilities of cody, which makes them really relient on staying fairly close to together to make the most of them, plus they need Imperial commander and Falucian stormtrooper to be truely effective.

Without Imperial Commandoer and Falucian stormtrooper, I would be hesitent to use them. 20 Hp is a hard sell, though undoubtably better then clone troopers and most other infantry types, except senate commandos, though they would have a hard time hitting 30 def stromtroopers, just having the guts to weather all those shots... Hehehe
General_Grievous
Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:42:43 PM
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I'm a fan of the swarm and you can swarm more effectively with the standard stormtroopers. Although the 501st is really good and I can see him finding his way into a few of squads.
SquelchDog
Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2010 11:47:50 PM
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General_Grievous wrote:
I'm a fan of the swarm and you can swarm more effectively with the standard stormtroopers. Although the 501st is really good and I can see him finding his way into a few of squads.


Have to agree with ya there General Grievous! ThumpUp Love the Storm Trooper swarms!
General_Grievous
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SquelchDog wrote:
General_Grievous wrote:
I'm a fan of the swarm and you can swarm more effectively with the standard stormtroopers. Although the 501st is really good and I can see him finding his way into a few of squads.


Have to agree with ya there General Grievous! ThumpUp Love the Storm Trooper swarms!


My favourite part is during the unveiling of the team when you keep putting storm trooper after stormtrooper onto the board and watch your opponent beginning to squirm. haha
SquelchDog
Posted: Sunday, January 24, 2010 6:17:39 AM
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General_Grievous wrote:
SquelchDog wrote:
General_Grievous wrote:
I'm a fan of the swarm and you can swarm more effectively with the standard stormtroopers. Although the 501st is really good and I can see him finding his way into a few of squads.


Have to agree with ya there General Grievous! ThumpUp Love the Storm Trooper swarms!


My favourite part is during the unveiling of the team when you keep putting storm trooper after stormtrooper onto the board and watch your opponent beginning to squirm. haha


Laugh Oh ya!
carnorjax1
Posted: Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:03:22 AM
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2 stormtroopers, or 1 501st trooper. If someone unique comes along, he could dropthe 501st in one turn. I would rather at least have a second chance to fire
Sithfan
Posted: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:51:23 AM
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Is it me, or does the 501st Stormtrooper look like the sculpt/paint was taken from a shoddy homemade costume?... ;)
wannabe mexican
Posted: Monday, January 25, 2010 5:58:34 AM
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Sithfan wrote:
Is it me, or does the 501st Stormtrooper look like the sculpt/paint was taken from a shoddy homemade costume?... ;)


The picture really does look crap. I'm hoping the actual mini is much much better.
Pericles
Posted: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:46:28 AM
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wannabe mexican wrote:
Sithfan wrote:
Is it me, or does the 501st Stormtrooper look like the sculpt/paint was taken from a shoddy homemade costume?... ;)


The picture really does look crap. I'm hoping the actual mini is much much better.


I bought my first booster this morning, and, unfortunately, I'm afraid he does look that bad in real life. Glare It's like they forgot to calibrate where the eye-paint should go and it is way too far on either side of the helmet. Oh, well. The rest of the figs looked pretty good though. I also like the color scheme of the booster packs themselves. Dark, bold colors; they look really sharp. ThumpUp

wannabe mexican
Posted: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:05:08 AM
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Pericles wrote:
wannabe mexican wrote:
Sithfan wrote:
Is it me, or does the 501st Stormtrooper look like the sculpt/paint was taken from a shoddy homemade costume?... ;)


The picture really does look crap. I'm hoping the actual mini is much much better.


I bought my first booster this morning, and, unfortunately, I'm afraid he does look that bad in real life. Glare It's like they forgot to calibrate where the eye-paint should go and it is way too far on either side of the helmet. Oh, well. The rest of the figs looked pretty good though. I also like the color scheme of the booster packs themselves. Dark, bold colors; they look really sharp. ThumpUp



What VR/R did you get??
DarthJak
Posted: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:48:31 AM
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IDK...? what's better an apple or an orange?Confused
kezzamachine
Posted: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 8:31:01 AM
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There is nothing quite like a horde of Stormtroopers 'storming' up the board...
Pericles
Posted: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:34:52 AM
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wannabe mexican wrote:


What VR/R did you get??


I got Merumeru. I don't play Wookies that often, but he's not too bad. I'm thinking about throwing him in with a few OR Wookies and seeing what they can do.
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