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trick624
Posted: Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:16:51 AM
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What exactly is a sealed tourney?

I've never participated in any tournaments for SWM.
saeseetiin
Posted: Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:20:23 AM
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Neither have I but I think that its a tourney where they open boosters and make squad from the boosters they get.
swinefeld
Posted: Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:42:18 AM
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That's right. There is a point limit set, for example 125 is a new point format for sealed in DCI. You build to the point limit out of your boosters, and faction rules do not apply, so you can play anything together, and it often makes for some interesting synergies that aren't available under normal rules.

It's fun, but you don't always pull a good mix of pieces. Usually we play sealed when new sets come out, but you could do it with mixed sets also. I'd like to try that way one of these days.
creme_brule
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swinefeld wrote:
That's right. There is a point limit set, for example 125 is a new point format for sealed in DCI. You build to the point limit out of your boosters, and faction rules do not apply, so you can play anything together, and it often makes for some interesting synergies that aren't available under normal rules.

It's fun, but you don't always pull a good mix of pieces. Usually we play sealed when new sets come out, but you could do it with mixed sets also. I'd like to try that way one of these days.


open one of every booster...create a 300 point squad! Blink
trick624
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that sounds awesome, i guess i'll have to see if they are doing that here
Darth Percocet
Posted: Sunday, March 14, 2010 12:50:27 PM
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trick624 wrote:
that sounds awesome, i guess i'll have to see if they are doing that here


Yea you deff should try it, maybe do it for the MOTF release, its always fun, the last one i was at was for JA & its funny cuz my nephew pulled 2 Leia Skywalkers haha for his 2 uniques, which was pretty good because she was in high demand because him pulling 2 meant not many other people pulled her so he was able to trade the other one easily after the tourney...

But yea you'll have fun doing it...
carnorjax1
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Darth Percocet wrote:
trick624 wrote:
that sounds awesome, i guess i'll have to see if they are doing that here


Yea you deff should try it, maybe do it for the MOTF release, its always fun, the last one i was at was for JA & its funny cuz my nephew pulled 2 Leia Skywalkers haha for his 2 uniques, which was pretty good because she was in high demand because him pulling 2 meant not many other people pulled her so he was able to trade the other one easily after the tourney...

But yea you'll have fun doing it...


They are usually 100 points, you buy two boosters and make a squad from them (no faction restrictions)
StevenO
Posted: Sunday, March 14, 2010 3:07:35 PM
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Doesn't SWM also have the booster draft style of sealed play? That's when each player "opens" a booster and picks one figure from it and then passes the rest of the pieces off to the next player who selects one and so on.
EmporerDragon
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Yes, but no one uses it.
Zalkrie
Posted: Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:20:50 PM
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Untrue EmporerDragon.....we use the draft format once every other month or so at the Fallston Md store. I love that format because at least you get a chance at pulling pieces you want instead of being stuck with what came in your box. It is an excellant format and squads tend to be a little better in this form of sealed.
erictedders
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Zalkrie wrote:
Untrue EmporerDragon.....we use the draft format once every other month or so at the Fallston Md store. I love that format because at least you get a chance at pulling pieces you want instead of being stuck with what came in your box. It is an excellant format and squads tend to be a little better in this form of sealed.


True, the squads tend to be better, but it's hard choosing a pack, then rolling a 1 and watching someone else walk off with the Cad Bane that came from the pack you bought...

Yeah, that makes for some hard feelings. I lost Darth Nihl on a bad roll and ended up with someone else's gha nacht. When you're tight on cash that kind of thing can cause resentment. Poison the blood between friends and peers. We did that at one shop and one gamer never returned. He pulled Aurra Sing and was forced to watch everything good go. I think he got left with a Ephant Mon or Deena Shan or something. It was bad. He hated us.

I hate sealed drafts.
imyurhukaberry
Posted: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:55:29 AM
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It's (sealed tournament) a great way for newer players to play in a tournament without having to worry about the super squads out there.

The group back in Ohio has played a Sealed Tourney for each set since Legacy. They are definitely fun!
(depending on your pull) ;)
erictedders
Posted: Monday, March 15, 2010 6:02:43 AM
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trick624 wrote:

I've never participated in any tournaments for SWM.


Man, that's a shame. If you live in South Jersey you should come out to Good vs. Evil or Jester's Playhouse on Saturdays. We'd love to see you.

PS. Am I reading this right? Is my rank "Junk Golem"? Ouch.Blink
StevenO
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erictedders wrote:
Zalkrie wrote:
Untrue EmporerDragon.....we use the draft format once every other month or so at the Fallston Md store. I love that format because at least you get a chance at pulling pieces you want instead of being stuck with what came in your box. It is an excellant format and squads tend to be a little better in this form of sealed.


True, the squads tend to be better, but it's hard choosing a pack, then rolling a 1 and watching someone else walk off with the Cad Bane that came from the pack you bought...

Yeah, that makes for some hard feelings. I lost Darth Nihl on a bad roll and ended up with someone else's gha nacht.

I hate sealed drafts.

If you keep the pieces you draft you shouldn't be losing a Cad Bane that you "bought" because you either open (and likely pick) Bane or you are just buying a random booster and you can't (legally) know that Bane is in the booster you didn't get to open.

The other way of distributing draft pieces would be to take all the rare/VR opened and have the groups winner pick first and then move down from there. If you open Bane and want to keep him you'd better make sure you win.

Draft squads should be a bit better than out of the box squads but they are harder to get going.
erictedders
Posted: Monday, March 15, 2010 6:07:10 AM
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Excellent solution StevenO. I'm going to suggest that next time we do a sealed. Dang, that would have been a handy solution a year ago.
tx3252
Posted: Monday, March 15, 2010 6:54:57 AM
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I loved sealed tournaments. They are a blast.
Squid89
Posted: Monday, March 15, 2010 7:17:46 AM
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We've done sealed release events a couple different ways besides the standards already mentioned. They are not DCI-sanctioned, but fun alternatives. Most of us already have our cases by the time we get to run a release event the following weekend, so pull-wants for the collection are more limited for the release tourney and we can focus more on playing. Might not work for bigger groups with smaller collections.

Method 1 - everyone buys a booster and plays all 7 pieces for the tourney. (We've done it before where you can buy a second booster at any time during the tourney and use that one instead.) It depends on the balance of the set a bit and the pulls can be lopsided, but that was why we added the second booster option.

Method 2 - everyone buys two boosters and opens both. You keep the full contents of one and throw the other into the draft pile. Everyone rolls for draft position and select one per draft turn, then run reverse order for the even numbered draft rounds until all pieces are gone. Everyone still ends up with two full boosters worth of stuff and at least one of the two R/VRs you pulled. In this format we often enforce the faction-building rules (especially for the sets with only a couple factions). I like this one for me the best. I can mix my draft picks between army builders and the power R/VR pieces.

DCI official format here: http://www.wizards.com/dci/downloads/SWM_FLR_26Jan10_EN.pdf under sections 640 and 650.
StevenO
Posted: Monday, March 15, 2010 7:49:50 AM
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Squid89 wrote:
DCI official format here: http://www.wizards.com/dci/downloads/SWM_FLR_26Jan10_EN.pdf under sections 640 and 650.

Note that here you also get first shot at whatever you open.
Zalkrie
Posted: Monday, March 15, 2010 8:45:32 AM
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Yeah, when we do sealed, you get first pick out of the box you buy. Then you pass to your left or right until all seven figs have been picked. I have never seen an option were you roll for picking a figure. We open a box, pick a fig, then pass the rest.
homestar45
Posted: Monday, March 15, 2010 9:04:34 AM
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Yup what Zalkrie said. It rocks. That's my favorite thing. Sometimes you can make some squads that are a lot of fun. And if you're lucky sometimes you may get an extra rare, even though it may not be one you want (I'm looking at you Odd ball, you little jerk). Next time you and a friend are buying packs I suggest taking what you get and playing a game between the two of you. It's fun!
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