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Who do you think was the Greatest Sith lord?
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Well, sidious was pretty beast considering he brought down the whole republic and 99% of the jedi AND created the empire that was "supposed to last 1000 years"...with minimal help from Mr. Skywalker lol
though...the "old" sith are also pretty koo....bane is going to get my vote i think...
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I say Revan. He took out the Mandalorians single-handedly, drove the Republic to its knees, then saved it by himself. Oh, and when his apprentice tried to kill him in a fair fight, Revan sliced his jaw off. That way, Malak wouldn't give him any more lip. Revan was also described as "staring at the heart of the Force". On top of all that, he was an exemplary lightsaber duelist, and a master strategist. Did I mention that he was an incredible mechanic, as he built HK-47, the most amazing assassin droid ever invented? Due to all of this, Revan gets my vote.
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where is darth maul?
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This isn't even close. I know it's fashionable to jump on the EU bandwagon with stuff like this, but Palpatine is without question the greatest sith. Because he WON. He took down the Republic, and he totally out-thought and out-manouvered the Jedi Order. Bane? He lost. Kun? Lost. Revan? I think he was greater as a good guy. Nihilus? Lost. I really dont see that there is even another Sith close to Palps.
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Sidious lost, too. A whiny farmboy brought his whole great vision down in a single day.
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NO.
The Chosen One is the person whodefeated Palpatine. He's the only one who could. If you remember, Luke was getting Deep fried until his dad stepped in.
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Sidious by far I don't think any of the others ever conquered the galaxy the way Sidious did. If you pick anyone else I think you have some explaining to do.
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Sashlon wrote:This isn't even close. I know it's fashionable to jump on the EU bandwagon with stuff like this, but Palpatine is without question the greatest sith. Because he WON. He took down the Republic, and he totally out-thought and out-manouvered the Jedi Order. Bane? He lost. Kun? Lost. Revan? I think he was greater as a good guy. Nihilus? Lost. I really dont see that there is even another Sith close to Palps. Well said
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I'm going to have to agree with all the above on Sidious. Plus he did it all before they even knew who he was. Some of the other notable mentions certainly were the cream of the crop in their own time but usually had to flex their muscles and wave their powers at the head of their army. Sidious did it all using the Jedi as the pawns of their own downfall while sitting pretty as the secret ruler of the Seperatists and to stop them was given absolute control of the Republic he was plotting taking town the whole time. He quite literally ruled the whole galaxy. Kinda hard to lose a game of chess when you are sitting on both sides of the board. Thats pretty impressive.
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sidious really? ok, he had an alright 50 year run. but what did he do FOR THE SITH as a whole.
all you original trilogy fanboys please get with the new millennium,
bane>revan> anyone else> darth sidious > darth krayt
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Lachesis wrote:sidious really? ok, he had an alright 50 year run. but what did he do FOR THE SITH as a whole.
all you original trilogy fanboys please get with the new millennium,
bane>revan> anyone else> darth sidious > darth krayt lol OK, I don't even know how to respond to this. Original Trilogy Fanboys? That's kind of insulting. I mean, the OT is the basis for EVERYTHING in the prequels and the EU. If you want to talk about fanboys, those are the people who can't get enough of Revan and Cad Bane. I mean, sure, a computer game and a kids cartoon, not to mention comic book characters REALLY compare to the OT stuff. I mean really. That is SO ridiculous. The simple truth is that none of the sithlords you mention actually set out to do ANYTHING for any higher purpose that to further their own powerbase. Sidious actually conquered the GALAXY. He engineered the near eradication of the Jedi order. Krayt I could see making a case for. But then he had tons of helpers. Sidious only had his apprentices and the different pawns he used over the years. You really need to think about throwing around comments like that.
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The argument between, OT, PT, And the Eu Fanboys will continue to rage,But even considering all of them, I voted for Palps because he was not only able to decieve The Republic in General, But also the Jedi. He was able to cloud the Force so much that even arguably the greatest Jedi of all time, Yoda could not see through the cloudiness.
Perhaps other Sith Lords were more Physically stronger like Bane, But Palpatine also showed a true Mastery of the Dark side of the Force, Even being able to "manipulate the Mitichlorians to Create life", along with Plaguies. Perhaps Bane would have been stronger, He was able to destroy the Sith with the thought bomb, But he could not take Out the Jedi order and take over the Republic, at least not at that time. Palps even was able to have an army created supposedly by the Jedi. The clones had pretty much been programmed by Palps. He was indeed the man!
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Heisenberg wrote:Who do you think was the Greatest Sith lord? Darth Darth Binks.
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I can't in good conscience vote for palps. He did absolutely none of the heavy lifting in his takeover bid. The greatest Sith ever should be awesome across the board-fighting skills, knowledge of the force, galactic power, and a general bad man you don't want to mess with. Sidious held awesome galactic power, but fills none of the other criteria at all.
Case in point- Sidious couldn't beat windu-Anakin did that for him. Couldn't beat Yoda-got lucky that the explosion threw Yoda and made him fall 20-30 feet to the ground, while he luckily was able to grab a hand rail then had his trooper lackies try to hunt down the little green gremlin cause he was too chicken to do it himself.
Let's see here: couldn't kill his own APPRENTICE so he got Anakin to do that for him. Violated the rule of two by taking down his master when he was asleep, because he wasn't powerful enough to do it while his master was awake-if rumors are to be believed. An apprentice is supposed to kill their master only if they are more powerful than them, so that the apprentice can learn as much as possible. By not adhering to this code, Sidious violated one of the most basic tenants of Bane's Rule of Two, which detracts from his general Sithiness. And the fact that he once again took the cowards way out to achieve victory is yet another strike against him.
The only fight he ALMOST won by the virtue of his own power was taking out luke though the farmboy refused to even fight back so that hardly counts.
Oh, and in the end he got himself killed by a one armed asthmatic ATM machine in a cape.
Seriously?????? Come on!!! Greatest sith ever? LOL hardly.
The Empire that he built that was supposed to last 1000 years only lasted 20 or so and got taken down by a small group of FURRY CAREBEARS!!! Bane was rolling over in his holocron at that one.
The Sith that was probably the closest to having it all was Revan. Great dueling skills, had power over half the galaxy, awesome knowledge of the force, amazing general and tactician, so much so that even the mandalorians were awed by his power. EVERYONE was afraid of him, from the Jedi who sent assassins after him (something that according to Luke is against the Jedi code) to his own apprentice to the mandalorians. Then he left to try and take out the true sith ON HIS OWN. Throw on top of that the fact that neither the Jedi NOR the Sith were ever able to actually kill him. How's that for being a bad bad man?
Sure, Sidious was great at what he did (pulling puppet strings and moaning like a girl so other people would do his dirty work). But when it comes right down to it, he just doesn't make the cut as an awesome Sith. In fact, he's mediocre at best and laughable at worst.
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Also, for the record- I'm not a revan fanboy. The character is good, but I'm more of a Bane fan than anything. Just trying to think that IF I was a Sith, who would I most want to be apprenticed to. If I was a Jedi who I would fear the most. As well as who was the baddest man in the galaxy. P.S. The above post was made in both sarcasm and jest with a little truth mixed in and not intended to bait or offend OT or Sidious fanboys. Please take it as such.
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Vader. I'm almost offended he isn't even on there. He killed that chump that most of y'all voted to be the best, with ONE HAND.
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pitcherstar wrote: The greatest Sith ever should be awesome across the board-fighting skills, knowledge of the force, galactic power, and a general bad man you don't want to mess with.
Not trying to start something here, but, Says who? True this is a crap poll to begin with (call 'em like I see 'em (no Vader?)), but different people are gonna have different criteria. It's the OP's fault for not specifying on what levels who was the greatest Sith. So now we're gonna get a bunch of people flaming (already started) based on different perceptions of what constitutes greatness, let alone more easily comparable things, like who had the best force lightning or something. Really, this thread should just be locked now, before we get some more accusations of fanboyism, escalating into worse stuff over a stupid argument that stems from lack of specificity on the OP's part. BTW, since we can go with whatever criteria we want, I'm voting Palpatine, since he definitely takes the MOST IMPORTANT sith lord category: Most facial wrinkles.
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AdmiralMotti89 wrote:
different people are gonna have different criteria.
BTW, since we can go with whatever criteria we want, I'm voting Palpatine, since he definitely takes the MOST IMPORTANT sith lord category: Most facial wrinkles.
That was kind of my point Motti, that people shouldn't take this thread seriously as arguments can be made both ways. Was the flaming comment thrown out at me? If so, I apologize, just trying to be humorous with my post. Though I don't think the thread should be locked as long as everyone can be good natured about their debate and realize that it really does just come down to personal preference. On a side note, good point about the wrinkles. It was overlooked in my original assessment. Is it too late to change my vote?
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pitcherstar wrote:AdmiralMotti89 wrote:
different people are gonna have different criteria.
BTW, since we can go with whatever criteria we want, I'm voting Palpatine, since he definitely takes the MOST IMPORTANT sith lord category: Most facial wrinkles.
That was kind of my point Motti, that people shouldn't take this thread seriously as arguments can be made both ways. Was the flaming comment thrown out at me? If so, I apologize, just trying to be humorous with my post. Though I don't think the thread should be locked as long as everyone can be good natured about their debate and realize that it really does just come down to personal preference. On a side note, good point about the wrinkles. It was overlooked in my original assessment. Is it too late to change my vote? No, not at you, soeone above said something about OT fanboys, and that's where it seemed to me like this one started going downhill. And yes, it's too late to change your vote. Next time wait till I chime in so I can telly y'all who you should really vote for.
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