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Desslok
Posted: Monday, September 26, 2011 6:22:37 PM
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Admittedly I haven't cracked open that book in years, but I remember that the minis are pretty blasted tiny when compared to the WotC minis. I think they were the 23mm scale? So yeah, about half the size.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 12:09:17 PM
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I just picked up the WEG Miniature Battles game and two of its supplements off of ebay along with two Ultimate Mission books complete with maps. The game says it's based on 25mm minis (that's almost one inch) so you should have no issues using the WotC minis with that game.

While the minis may be compatible although I don't know how they actually compare it terms if true size the rules are so different from SWM that I don't really know where to begin. The game is meant to be played on a large table instead of the maps we're now familiar with. Units have facing and there is also limits to how far you can seee. I don't really know what else to add.
Greybird
Posted: Sunday, October 2, 2011 2:30:13 AM
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If you're interested, here's the page for it over at BoardGameGeek along with links to each of the expansion books for it too:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/7420/star-wars-miniatures-battles

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgameexpansion/10844/star-wars-miniatures-battles-imperial-entanglement

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgameexpansion/10664/star-wars-miniatures-battles-companion

I've been ever so slowly gearing up to play this game for a long while now. I acquired the rules and sourcebooks a year or so back, and I've been picking up bits and pieces of modeling terrain here and there for cool looking battlefields. I've even purchased plenty of extras of various SWMs generics so as to have enough for all sorts of alien and mercenary squads.

A lot of my friends never got into SWMs. The collectible aspect drove them off. With the old West End system though, I may have better luck getting them to try it.
Jedi Christian
Posted: Sunday, October 2, 2011 4:03:27 AM
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The metal WotC minis are comparable to the average WotC plastic mini. The WEG minis are definatly smaller but usable. When I place a WEG stormy next to a WotC Stormy. The top of the head of the stormy comes up to the bottom of the chin of the WotC stormy. So, some of the WEG minis that don't have WotC representation will be a good add in to play with if you don't mind imagining a shorter person which is good since in real life not everyone is the same height. I understand not using the WEG Stormys. But, example they did make Imperial Army figures that WotC did not. Just pretend these guys were too short to become stormys and had to enlist in the regular Imp army. With a little customizing of one WotC At-St would with a WEG Imp army trooper sticking out of the hatch would look cool. If someone can help me I would be willing to take a picture of all three next to each other and try posting it for everyone to look at. Thanks.
Greybird
Posted: Sunday, October 2, 2011 7:14:30 AM
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If this helps, MomirFarooq (Is he still around anymore?) has a page on his cool website about the various SW lines of miniatures and vehicles over the years and with pictures comparing some of them.

the page:

http://www.momirfarooq.com/swcharacter/starwarsminis.htm

his website:

http://www.momirfarooq.com/swcharacter/index.htm



Jedi Christian
Posted: Sunday, October 2, 2011 11:13:24 AM
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That works great. I just took my pictures and I also included the Kenner ones. But, I did not have the other two pieces like him. I do like Momir's site, I just have not been there for I while.

FYI... When I gave the size of the WEG stormy. Mine are all based on a 1"dia washer.
kobayashimaru
Posted: Monday, October 3, 2011 2:46:22 AM
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@all,
wasnt West End Games also the maker of Rogue Trader (that would later become Games Workshop/ Warhammer 40K)?
Its just interesting to see how all the tabletop games are more or less inter-related. BigGrin
Jedi Christian
Posted: Monday, October 3, 2011 5:56:42 PM
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kobayashimaru wrote:
@all,
wasnt West End Games also the maker of Rogue Trader (that would later become Games Workshop/ Warhammer 40K)?
Its just interesting to see how all the tabletop games are more or less inter-related. BigGrin


I have not played that. But, when I explain the WEG SWminis game to people, I say it's simialar. Speaking of which I've talked my wife into trying out WarHammer Fantasy (maybe 40K). Any suggestion from anyone. Were thinking Dwarfs and High Elves. What all do I need to know before investing. This can be in a PM so that we don't take this off topic. Thanks.
Greybird
Posted: Tuesday, October 4, 2011 5:08:48 PM
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Well, I don't know anything about the Dwarves, and I've not collected anything at all for Warhammer Fantasy in a long, long time, but I'd been building up a sizeable High Elf army before I moved onto other games. I'd salivated over the Skaven, but I finally settled for a High Elf army in part because GW's High Elves just looked darn good and in part because, as a longtime fan of high fantasy, elves have always been a very cool and romantic race for me. The biggest deciding factor at the time though was that the High Elves were considered much, much tougher in the game than a lot of other races so they cost a lot more points-wise in the game. This meant of course that a High Elf army would have a lot fewer models on the table than most other armies so I didn't have to spend nearly as much money as the other players to have an effective force. A Skaven force on the other hand would have needed three or four times the numbers of miniatures. Investing is the right word, because, if you're looking at GW stuff, cost will definitely play into it.




kobayashimaru wrote:
@all,
wasnt West End Games also the maker of Rogue Trader (that would later become Games Workshop/ Warhammer 40K)?
Its just interesting to see how all the tabletop games are more or less inter-related. BigGrin


Hmm. I don't think so. Although West End Games' 1st edition of the Star Wars Roleplaying Game (and the best edition in my book BigGrin ) did come out the same year (1987) as GW's Rogue Trader, they were still separate companies and not working together as far as I know.
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