I feel for ya SuperYoda, as I have been hit by this multiple times. I am not sure if its cowardice, or just someone who does not have a grasp of how the game is played, or if it is just a person who likes to spread discontent among everyone else because they are unhappy with their own life. At any rate, I have discontinued using the squad builder here (It hasn't been updated with the new V-set stuff anyway), and now I just do it on my own PDF file. I now let my records with said squads do the talking for me, as opposed to worrying what other people think. Sure, I don't get positive feedback or help in what to do better, but with the exception of a couple squads I wasn't getting it anyways. In the old squads that I got 1 bombs, I left comments back like this example:

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/121157/-200-pts---ordos-heavy-ordinance

Easiest way: take the ratings tool away. It is clearly being abused. Leave the feedback box (the most important element).

1. I don't think the rating on anything are accurate.
2. The skill of the player is what really determines the strength of the squad. Whoever is rating things like junk obviously doesn't have the skill to play against even some casual squads.

I never suggested that. I'm aware of the fact that ratings are the last thing on the moderators' minds. I never thought forcing comments was a good idea either. That being said, no comment on a squad might be preferable to a comment of "this sucks" but, at least if commenting was forced, we'd know who the jerks were and could deal with it that way.

At any rate, I was unaware of the fact that posts like this had been made in the past. I only hoped to make others aware of the issue and hopefully send a message to whoever was doing this. I understand that something like this is inevitable on the Internet, but that doesn't mean that nothing can be done about it... and the sarcasm could be done without.

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this issue is been brought up way to much.
every few months, in on thread or another, it seems.

perhaps I "sounded" rude, but my patience for this issue is at an end.
I just feel the whole ratings issue complaints are counterproductive.
when a member complains about receiving a 1 on their squad, it gives the "1 bombing troll"exactly the response
they are hoping for.

Since I joined Bloo on 4-14-08, first as darth jak, the complaints have been raised, often.
Sithborg's above response, has been the kind of answer given every time.

anyone who knows me, would know that no insults were intended.

+1, the term we're looking for here is "planned ignoring."

My friend your initial response did seem a bit harsh. Its time for a a group hugg!

@Sithborg - Personally. Comments wouldn't even have to be forced. The ratings could just be changed so that they aren't anonymous (i.e. a username is attached to each rating so people can see who's rating what and personally contact the other user for feedback if they so desire). Again, I'm not saying it's a good idea, and I'm not saying we should do it. All I'm saying is that it's a potential solution and, beyond the corresponding change in the site code, the moderators needn't and wouldn't have anything to do with it.

@jak - No, I don't know you personally. I apologize for the backlash. However, whether you meant to be insulting or not, the comment about "noobs" complaining about getting a 1 was still unnecessary, or at least was poorly thought-out. Post count and time on the community may mean absolutely nothing, but when you see "Advanced Bloo Milk Memeber" and 300+ post count next to someone's username, it's a pretty good indication that they aren't a "noob" and that if they post something like this, it's supposed to be well-intentioned. I haven't encountered a thread like this before, and I wasn't about to dig through months of forum posts (because the search feature is still broken... :-/ ) to make sure it wasn't a repeat issue. I'm sorry if you're upset by me bringing it up again.

@NADER - Like I said, it's not the rating itself that perturbs me. I'm well aware of the fact that a majority of my squads are no good. Some of them aren't supposed to be. Squad building is fun that way. What perturbs me is that people firebomb squads and leave no reason for doing so if they truly feel the squad is deserving of a 1 and when people do so indiscriminantly and get enjoyment out of doing so. And yes, I know everyone else probably feels the same way. Thanks for the non-condescending tone, by the way.

This is all fine. I get it. It's unavoidable, but it's wrong and it's annoying, so I felt like something should be said. I didn't expect it bother so many people if I said anything about it. No, I probably shouldn't have said anything, but I did. Personally, I think complaining about people "complaining" is just as bad as "complaining" in the first place. I just get the feeling now that people are painting me to be more of the "bad guy" than this troll is just for drawing attention to the fact that there's a problem, and I don't appreciate it. Said people can just as easily ignore this. Conversations are self-perpetuating; don't leave a comment and the conversation has a hard time continuing. This is a public forum. People can navigate to and read whatever threads they so choose to. I'm not forcing anyone to read or comment on this. If one feels like leaving a comment, then one tacitly consents to participating in the discussion. Otherwise, one can choose to ignore it and not let it bother him. I apologize for getting so defensive over this issue, but I've had situations like this occur before, so I have a tendency to push back if I feel like I'm being pushed for no reason apparent to me.

All this said, I wouldn't mind if the thread is locked and/or deleted. It obviously has done nothing but perturb people for no apparent reason, and nothing constructive is coming out of this "discussion."

"back to the pile!!"- Stan