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Deaths_Baine
Posted: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 2:32:12 PM
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So i was looking at some rebel/ new republic squad ideas the other day and i had like 16 points left, i felt like i had enough door control and acivations and things, and then i was like man a force spirit like the ones the sith got would be awesome with these remaining points. Basically i was wondering if anyone else thinks it would be cool to get more force spirits and have them play a bigger role in squad building like they have in the sith facion.
corranhorn
Posted: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 2:50:32 PM
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Tbh, I think the Force Spirits in R/NR are strong e3nough-they just don't outcompete other pieces for the spot in a squad. Not, admittedly, they don't grant Sith Rage or anything looky, but Force spirits probably would still be neglected even if they did. The Sith are just a weaker faction overall, with fewer options.
Deaths_Baine
Posted: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 3:19:13 PM
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corranhorn wrote:
Tbh, I think the Force Spirits in R/NR are strong e3nough-they just don't outcompete other pieces for the spot in a squad. Not, admittedly, they don't grant Sith Rage or anything looky, but Force spirits probably would still be neglected even if they did. The Sith are just a weaker faction overall, with fewer options.


I think the problem is that in new republic you have either luke or yoda with the yoda costing to much(basically what you said.), and the fact that the other one is luke and IMHO the best thing to build around the new republic is luke now. so that leaves you with basically no options.
Rebels I think the force spirits are just such lack luster options that they are typically passed on. I think it would be cool to make force spirits for pieces that wizards made that never see use such as Wolf Sazen that way maybe wolf could find his way onto some maps.
Galactic Funk
Posted: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 3:39:47 PM
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I think the Rebel FS are fine. Obi only has speed 2 but he only costs 8. If he can't keep up with your squad Anikan is only 12 points. I don't have Yoda FS but probably wouldn't use him much if ever due to his cost. Obi is starting to show up frequently with the new RC Leia too.

I get what you are saying about NR but how many ccompetitive characters would you really want to use that it would make much of a difference?

If you compare any of those options w/ Exar DFS they pale in comparison but so does Marka. Exar is very aggressively costed and also happens to fill a significant role due to the fact that Dark Aura synergizes so well with Sith Sorcery. That's not to mention how renewal is a bigger deal for some of his options. I would gladly pay 6 or more points on top of the 14 for him based upon what he does.

That being said I don't know if we need anything beyond what we already have.
And if you were going to make a new one for NR who would you make that was a ghost? I guess a Yoda remake.....
Deaths_Baine
Posted: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 3:51:10 PM
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Galactic Funk wrote:
I think the Rebel FS are fine. Obi only has speed 2 but he only costs 8. If he can't keep up with your squad Anikan is only 12 points. I don't have Yoda FS but probably wouldn't use him much if ever due to his cost. Obi is starting to show up frequently with the new RC Leia too.

I get what you are saying about NR but how many ccompetitive characters would you really want to use that it would make much of a difference?

If you compare any of those options w/ Exar DFS they pale in comparison but so does Marka. Exar is very aggressively costed and also happens to fill a significant role due to the fact that Dark Aura synergizes so well with Sith Sorcery. That's not to mention how renewal is a bigger deal for some of his options. I would gladly pay 6 or more points on top of the 14 for him based upon what he does.

That being said I don't know if we need anything beyond what we already have.
And if you were going to make a new one for NR who would you make that was a ghost? I guess a Yoda remake.....



wolf sazen would be fine i think, but there are alot of cool things you could do, i love the new qui-gon force spirit. I guess i like the way force spirits have been used lately and just think it would be cool to add one to new republic.
And it depends on what the force spirit is designed to do, i am not sure what i would want to be honest, but i think there are a lot of figures in new republic that could benefit from it. old kyle battlemaster could use one, saba, jacen solo.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 4:30:53 PM
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Er - um. Well... there's one more option for a 3pt piece.

Yoda's Resting Spirit
Cost: 3
Unique, Emplacement
Spirit: (Just like Light Spirit but doesn't grant FR1 or Mettle... not a target, kill for a force point, save 11, yada yada...)
Force 1
CE: An ally within 3 squares may spend this character's Force Points. Can't combine or spend more than once.

One force point, activation, and obstacle for 3 points. Probably not that useful, but in the right spot where you have a few points left - maybe.
corranhorn
Posted: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 4:31:12 PM
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Deaths_Baine wrote:
corranhorn wrote:
Tbh, I think the Force Spirits in R/NR are strong e3nough-they just don't outcompete other pieces for the spot in a squad. Not, admittedly, they don't grant Sith Rage or anything looky, but Force spirits probably would still be neglected even if they did. The Sith are just a weaker faction overall, with fewer options.


I think the problem is that in new republic you have either luke or yoda with the yoda costing to much(basically what you said.), and the fact that the other one is luke and IMHO the best thing to build around the new republic is luke now. so that leaves you with basically no options.


I intended to cover that but looking at my post I wasn't clear.
Deaths_Baine
Posted: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 4:32:44 PM
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yeah i thought as much I just love what the designers have been able to do with force spirits, and would like to see them in more factions.
dreadtech
Posted: Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:52:37 PM
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I would like an Old Republic one.
Deaths_Baine
Posted: Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:58:16 PM
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dreadtech wrote:
I would like an Old Republic one.


yeah, that would be awesome, one to compete with the old republic senator for game time maybe.
corranhorn
Posted: Thursday, May 9, 2013 4:23:23 PM
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Deaths_Baine wrote:
dreadtech wrote:
I would like an Old Republic one.


yeah, that would be awesome, one to compete with the old republic senator for game time maybe.


I wouldn't, just because it would most likely be the Exile.
markedman247
Posted: Thursday, May 9, 2013 4:26:13 PM
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dreadtech wrote:
I would like an Old Republic one.


Andur Sunrider might be a good choice. He was the husband of Nomi.
corranhorn
Posted: Saturday, May 11, 2013 4:47:33 AM
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markedman247 wrote:
dreadtech wrote:
I would like an Old Republic one.


Andur Sunrider might be a good choice. He was the husband of Nomi.


The great god saber1 has answered our prayers! Praise be to him!
Darthbane53
Posted: Saturday, May 11, 2013 4:56:56 AM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
Er - um. Well... there's one more option for a 3pt piece.

Yoda's Resting Spirit
Cost: 3
Unique, Emplacement
Spirit: (Just like Light Spirit but doesn't grant FR1 or Mettle... not a target, kill for a force point, save 11, yada yada...)
Force 1
CE: An ally within 3 squares may spend this character's Force Points. Can't combine or spend more than once.

One force point, activation, and obstacle for 3 points. Probably not that useful, but in the right spot where you have a few points left - maybe.


Waiiit...is this a real spoiler?
AndyHatton
Posted: Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:05:53 AM
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Darthbane53 wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:
Er - um. Well... there's one more option for a 3pt piece.

Yoda's Resting Spirit
Cost: 3
Unique, Emplacement
Spirit: (Just like Light Spirit but doesn't grant FR1 or Mettle... not a target, kill for a force point, save 11, yada yada...)
Force 1
CE: An ally within 3 squares may spend this character's Force Points. Can't combine or spend more than once.

One force point, activation, and obstacle for 3 points. Probably not that useful, but in the right spot where you have a few points left - maybe.


Waiiit...is this a real spoiler?


No, that is FlyingArrow's suggestion for a possible Force Spirit
saber1
Posted: Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:38:56 AM
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corranhorn wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
dreadtech wrote:
I would like an Old Republic one.


Andur Sunrider might be a good choice. He was the husband of Nomi.


The great god saber1 has answered our prayers! Praise be to him!


Whoa, whoa, whoa! I appreciate a compliment but let's not go that far. Those are shoes I could never fill. Wink
corranhorn
Posted: Saturday, May 11, 2013 5:51:54 AM
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saber1 wrote:
corranhorn wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
dreadtech wrote:
I would like an Old Republic one.


Andur Sunrider might be a good choice. He was the husband of Nomi.


The great god saber1 has answered our prayers! Praise be to him!


Whoa, whoa, whoa! I appreciate a compliment but let's not go that far. Those are shoes I could never fill. Wink


The saber speaks!
Joseph blob
Posted: Saturday, May 11, 2013 8:51:05 AM
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A mini of Saber will be made in thanks BigGrin
dreadtech
Posted: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:34:23 PM
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Actually I have ask for a Andur Sunrider and was shot down.
Deaths_Baine
Posted: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:53:12 PM
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dreadtech wrote:
Actually I have ask for a Andur Sunrider and was shot down.



sad, i love what they have brought to the game.
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