I've only used them in VASSAL. I've done very well with "nom bombs" or Yoven Carr and as many cheap vong as possible.

Or you can do both with Nom and Carr then as many scouts as you can get. Else it's to the v-set and use the remade Acklay piece.

I'm too cheap to buy enough actual pieces to pull this off in live SWM. I'm not going to drop $1.50 U.S. a piece on junk 1 trick pony vong minions

I agree on all these points ^_^

Those first 2 points are golden, the War Coordinated is basically an auto include, plus he boosts the advanced agent officer's CE range!
I also don't play Vong often and have had a tough time coming up with some viable squads. Here are links to the ones I'm still testing out: Don't Mind Us We're A Little Shai were I boost up the Domain Shai Warrior's

Explosive Invasion force
This is my reserves squad for the Vong

Peace Brigade that is anything but peaceful This is still a Vong Squad, but with an emphases on Super Stealth Shooters.

My advice: don't try.

They are a factional dead end.


Unless you are JHC, then go right ahead. ;)

This is something TimmerB123 posted in V-set 7 spoilers.

"The main damage output of Vong is Melee, so they really struggle against guns. They do have a few movement breakers, but they only really shine outside of Nom Bombs (IMO) when they steal swap (the best movement breaker in the game).

It is a gradual process. Long have the Vong suffered against melee. Set 5 released Nei Rin which gave +4 defense for allies with V. Crab Armor against non adjacent attacks, and also let's them move 2 squares when they fail a crab armor save, thus letting them prevent the twin/additional attacks if positioned right. These on top of being a shaper (+10 damage to all Vong) are really great abilities, but the Vong still need more to compete.

One issue is that it's really hard to fit all you need into a squad with Vong. Gotta have the Yammosk (15), Quorreal is one of the best values in the game (costing 4-9 net points after his reinforcements with psuedo-rapport), but costs 30 initially, if you want to have warriors or hunters, you pretty much have to have a shaper (20 min, but the better ones are in the high 20s), Jakan was brought up, and he's good but expensive (27), then you usually need at least 1-2 commanders to help the Vong's typically pitiful attacks hit (11 for the cheapest Advance Agent Officer who is awesome, but they become less cost efficient after that), The really awesome but not cheap Domain Shai Subaltern who grants charging (29), and of course you still have to put in door control (at the moment, Lobot is still the best option - 27), and if you don't want to go the route of Vong heresy - you have to include a bunch of Zanoma Sekot Scouts, or the very overpriced Prefect Da'Gara (37) for Firejelly. Quednek is an awesome piece, but has low HP and a pitiful Low attack, but still cost you 20, and you'll need another large to make them really killer in case you steal swap with the Yammosk, but you can probably bring that in with a reinforcement. Oh - and then you need some warriors or hunters, and you're almost out of points.

Then there is the issue of virtual auto-losses. Vong have more than any other faction. What do Vong do when they face a bunch of droids? In Universe they go beserk and tear them apart. In our game - they turn inept. This is crazy! A Spit poison squad nerfed by a few mouse droids? That sucks. Try running your Jedi Hunter swarm against an IG-88 or IG-86 squad. Good luck! Don't even get me started about strafe vs (anything other than nom bomb) Vong. It's a massacre! I've even beaten Nom Bombs several times at regional tournaments with a lancer (it was much more of a match - it took very careful play). Finally disruptive - it hurts the Vong so bad. It totally squashes spit swarms and nom bombs, and it even hurts warriors and hunters because without attack boosts like the AAO, it's very hard for them to HIT ANYTHING!

Vong have scarey damage potential, but issues are getting TO the fight, and auto-losses. Cheap teach could help bring some of the auto-losses into a competitive match, and other little movement breakers and SAs can help them not be killed before they can even attack. It's a razor's edge balance - because too much in one direction and the already scarey damage potential would make them too good. That's why we are trying to add things gradually to the Vong to aide in that. "



Read this and thought - perfect for this OP. Really sums up Vong problems. NEVER BRING A KNIFE TO A GUNFIGHT!