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adamb0nd
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:54:40 AM
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I talked my friends into leaving wednesday so we could get to GenCon that night and have all tuesday free. However, i dont know if i'm going to be able to convince them to leave early enough to get to the con at 9am, which is the starting time of the 2014 Star Wars Miniatures Championship. I was wondering what the rules on that were? If I show up late, can i still play, and just count my absences as losses? If not, am I allowed to show up and watch without buying a ticket? If I buy a ticket just to watch, can I do that? Or do i have to arrive and play at 9am or nothing? I've never been to gencon, and i've never really done many events at any of the smaller cons i've been to, so I have no idea how casual or strict rules for these things are.

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gholli69
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:03:56 AM
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I don't believe you would have to buy a ticket to watch, however I'm pretty sure you have to be there at 9:00 if you are wanting to play.
UrbanShmi
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:52:04 AM
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We most likely won't start right at nine. And if we know you're coming a little late (I.e., you are in contact with James, Eric, or Jason that morning and they know to expect you relatively close to start time), we MIGHT be able to hold for a few minutes. Such things have happened in the past.

Also, remember that there will be other events going on at the same time, and event tickets can be used just like generics. So I encourage you to buy a ticket, show up when you can, and see what happens.
UrbanShmi
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:22:11 PM
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One more thing: If you know you're playing but will be a few minutes late, something you could do is let someone know your squad and map choice in advance. That way, someone onsite can fill out your squad sheet and get you entered into the computer.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:09:02 PM
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Honestly, as long as you pre-register (ie, send all your info to be entered into the computer) before the event starts, then I myself wouldn't see the harm in letting you forfeit your first match if you show up late. If you're 45 minutes late then your first-round opponent gets a free win and you still get to play in the rest of the event. HOWEVER, I am not the one in charge (of anything) at GenCon, so you really should talk to the event organizers no matter what.

Watching is free whenever you want.
UrbanShmi
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 2:48:28 PM
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Yeah, in that situation, I don't know if it would be an autoloss or a bye (would probably depend on the number of players). But the point is, don't worry too much about being there right at the crack of 9. People will still be filling out squad sheets and getting registered, and most events don't start until 10 or 15 minutes after anyway. If you think you're going to be later than that, I would recommend confirming that you plan to attend and getting your squad and map in in advance, as has been mentioned, just so we know you're coming. As long as you do that, we can make a decision and either hold for a few minutes or else proceed with the first round.
adamb0nd
Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:42:38 AM
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Thanks. I'll talk to me caravan and see what I can manage. Appreciate the tips.
leshippy
Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:44:27 AM
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For the GenCon virgins-
Event Tickets - Spend the $10 to get them mailed to you or stand in long lines. 30 minute minimum wait on Thursday morning with some wait times going up to an hour.
Traffic - Indy has a few million people that work there and you are going right into the middle of everone else trying to be at work between 8 and 9 am. Plan accordingly.
Parking - plan to pay and walk at least two blocks after you find a spot. Planing ahead of time will make this easier then i make it sound.
Convention size - 40,000 people will be there over the 4 days. While a majority are Friday thru Sunday, there are still lots of people there on Thursday and the convention space is not small its over 300,000 square feet. What I am trying to say it could be challenging for a first time to find us in the minis hall.
Start time -While everyone has mentioned we don't start on time, it would be nice if we could. If you know you are not going to be there by 9:15 I would talk to Eric and James and have them sit you up with a bye in the first round.

I guess what I am trying to convey is there is alot of ways for first timers to burn more time then they are planning on just getting to the tables. I hope this helps.
Chargers
Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:20:01 PM
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UrbanShmi wrote:
... I don't know if it would be an autoloss or a bye ...


I'm not running it, but from the perspective of a judge for other games, a player showing up late and getting a bye win is not fair to the players that were there on time and ready to go. A first round autoloss and playing 2nd and later rounds as usual is fair to all involved.
urbanjedi
Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:35:58 PM
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Chargers wrote:
UrbanShmi wrote:
... I don't know if it would be an autoloss or a bye ...


I'm not running it, but from the perspective of a judge for other games, a player showing up late and getting a bye win is not fair to the players that were there on time and ready to go. A first round autoloss and playing 2nd and later rounds as usual is fair to all involved.



I agree that an automatic bye would be unfair to other contestants. Although, it would be funny, assuming an odd number of players, if he got the bye randomly.

FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:37:44 PM
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leshippy wrote:
For the GenCon virgins-
Event Tickets - Spend the $10 to get them mailed to you or stand in long lines. 30 minute minimum wait on Thursday morning with some wait times going up to an hour.
Traffic - Indy has a few million people that work there and you are going right into the middle of everone else trying to be at work between 8 and 9 am. Plan accordingly.
Parking - plan to pay and walk at least two blocks after you find a spot. Planing ahead of time will make this easier then i make it sound.
Convention size - 40,000 people will be there over the 4 days. While a majority are Friday thru Sunday, there are still lots of people there on Thursday and the convention space is not small its over 300,000 square feet. What I am trying to say it could be challenging for a first time to find us in the minis hall.
Start time -While everyone has mentioned we don't start on time, it would be nice if we could. If you know you are not going to be there by 9:15 I would talk to Eric and James and have them sit you up with a bye in the first round.

I guess what I am trying to convey is there is alot of ways for first timers to burn more time then they are planning on just getting to the tables. I hope this helps.


Thanks so much for all this. I plan to pick up my tickets on Wednesday, but I didn't have them mailed. I think I'll plan to get there an hour early to make sure I'm there on time.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 7:38:45 PM
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urbanjedi wrote:
Chargers wrote:
UrbanShmi wrote:
... I don't know if it would be an autoloss or a bye ...


I'm not running it, but from the perspective of a judge for other games, a player showing up late and getting a bye win is not fair to the players that were there on time and ready to go. A first round autoloss and playing 2nd and later rounds as usual is fair to all involved.



I agree that an automatic bye would be unfair to other contestants. Although, it would be funny, assuming an odd number of players, if he got the bye randomly.



Agree. If he happens to get it randomly, good for him. As long as he has his squad/map registered beforehand.
leshippy
Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:49:30 AM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
leshippy wrote:
For the GenCon virgins-
Event Tickets - Spend the $10 to get them mailed to you or stand in long lines. 30 minute minimum wait on Thursday morning with some wait times going up to an hour.
Traffic - Indy has a few million people that work there and you are going right into the middle of everone else trying to be at work between 8 and 9 am. Plan accordingly.
Parking - plan to pay and walk at least two blocks after you find a spot. Planing ahead of time will make this easier then i make it sound.
Convention size - 40,000 people will be there over the 4 days. While a majority are Friday thru Sunday, there are still lots of people there on Thursday and the convention space is not small its over 300,000 square feet. What I am trying to say it could be challenging for a first time to find us in the minis hall.
Start time -While everyone has mentioned we don't start on time, it would be nice if we could. If you know you are not going to be there by 9:15 I would talk to Eric and James and have them sit you up with a bye in the first round.

I guess what I am trying to convey is there is alot of ways for first timers to burn more time then they are planning on just getting to the tables. I hope this helps.


Thanks so much for all this. I plan to pick up my tickets on Wednesday, but I didn't have them mailed. I think I'll plan to get there an hour early to make sure I'm there on time.


If you are going to pick up tickets on Wednesday, I would plan on picking them up after dinner. The line from 6-8 is pretty crazy. I would have to check, but I think the will call is open till midnight on Wednesday.
Echo24
Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:57:13 AM
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Actually last year will call was open 24 hours a day. It was awesome, Graham, Weeks, and I went and picked up our stuff at about 3 AM and there was no line at all. So if you're doing will call I would suggest doing that (after verifying that they will be open 24 hours again this year, of course).

In past years we would go straight there after we got into Indy around 1 PM on Wednesday, and the line was only 20-30 minutes long. It's not so bad if you're standing in it with people to talk to.
sharron
Posted: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:00:35 PM
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Us New Zealanders will keep this in mind for next year ;) we're coming for you! Best be on your toes :D
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