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CCC #41: Cloud City Duelists, Luke in Rebels OR Vader in Imperials Options
Gungan Batman Clone
Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:40:21 AM
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Gungan Batman Clone wrote:
Luke, Rebel Leader based off of Battlefront II Hero.


Change of entry to:

Darth Vader, Emperor's Hand
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Posted: Friday, May 23, 2014 7:50:53 AM
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11:59 Standard US Eastern time TONIGHT is the deadline to have your entries submitted and updated!

Good luck! ThumbsUp
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Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:15:42 AM
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saber1 wrote:
I decided to enter in the final hour.

Luke Skywalker of Cloud City

I wanted to capture Luke with training but "not a Jedi yet". He went in with a blaster at first, boldly against Fett and Vader (both above his weight class), before opting for his Lightsaber.

EDIT: Not the final hour after all. I behooves one to read the rules before entering a contest. My bad. Anywho, I've been inspired to also make a Vader for this here shindig. Pondering which to go with.

Darth Vader, Subjugator of Cloud City


So which is your final decision? I'm doing my voting now.
Gungan Batman Clone
Posted: Sunday, May 25, 2014 6:44:48 PM
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Deathwielded's Son of Vader 9
A nice low-cost piece with a lot of variety.

pegolego's Vader, Father of A New Hope 9
Very clever name! Quite a powerhouse!

AndyHatton's Luke, Duelist Over Bespin 9
Like the view on his impulsive decisions, Brash Advance and Overconfidence is particularly good.

Lord Ball's Vader, Agent of the Empire 9
Good representation, the CE is a little overpowered, but I guess representative.

saber1
Luke of Cloud City 9
A good shot and strike piece, Force Leap is a good use.

Vader, Subjugator 9
Altering the Deal is a good idea.

My vote goes to pegolego's
pegolego
Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:12:15 AM
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My two-week stunt probably threw everyone off (the holiday weekend didn't help), so voting will be extended until Thursday. We also need saber1's final entry, I think.
pegolego
Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:47:23 AM
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Votes for this week:

Darth Vader, Hand of the Emporer (GunganBatmanClone), 9
Really nice version, nice theme with the bounty hunter synergies.

Lord Vader, Agent of the Empire (Lord_Ball), 10
No complaints. Epic piece here, perfect flavor for the contest as well.

I'm going to go ahead and rate saber1's Luke, but feel free to change it to Vader, and I'll go back and rate that one instead; Luke Skywalker of Cloud City (saber1), 9.5
Cool, piece, nice (and risky) low cost entry pulled off nicely. Simple, but great as far as flavor goes. True to the scene.

Luke Skywalker, Duelist over Bespin (AndyHatton), 10
Absolutely top notch entry here (who expected less?), could go toe to toe with any Vader in the contest (ok, maybe not in actual COMBAT, but, you know, for contest purposes BigGrin). EXCELLENT flavor. Even the new abilities work nicely.

Luke Skywalker, Son of Vader (Deathwielded), 9
Nice piece, great flavor. Game-wise, very powerful. I don't know about Escape Death on him though, with the force batteries and Mettle available in Rebels. Avoid Defeat would be sufficient and still get what you want across I think.

Tough decision, Andy's Luke or Lord_Ball's Vader... But, in the end, the mighty Lord Vader, while failing to turn Luke to the dark side, prevails in the battle and gets my vote for the week BlooMilk

I hope everyone enjoyed the two piece contest, and thanks for bearing the different format!
Lord_Ball
Posted: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:41:48 AM
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Deathwielded, Son of Vader 8.5
Escape Death seems a bit much on a 26 point piece, especially on one that has fairly decent stats/abilities without it (just screams to be paired with Anakin Force Spirit, which I admit is kind of a neat and humorous side effect).

pegolego, Father of the New Hope 9
Established abilities packaged together for new flavor of Vader - nicely done. Turn to the Dark Side may not be as tempting to use on this piece as opposed to others with it, but I can see it being handy at times.

Gungan Batman Clone, Hand of the Emperor 8.75
Bring Him to Me has a cool premise, but I think you should have left off the second character part. Crushing Blow is a cool choice.

AndyHatton, Duelist over Bespin 8.75
I think the +4/+10 of Brash advance might be a bit much, especially with overconfidence providing an attack bonus for the same requirement.

saber1 of Cloud City, Subjugator 8.75
a nice alternative to HoY if not playing with pilots / Vader + Lobot = the opponent better not get reserves on a roll of 1...

My vote goes to AndyHatton for an interesting design on Luke that looks rather fun to play.
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Posted: Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:36:18 PM
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Luke Skywalker, Son of Vader by Deathwielded 9
Pretty much what I said in the comments, a lot of this works just still not sold on Luke giving Yoda Levitation. Nice Cheaper (good) melee Luke which are basically nonexistent.

Darth Vader, Father of the New Hope by pegolego 9.5
Loner is nice and Turn to the Dark Side is always a nice flavorful ability even if it i rarely used. Force Blast is a nice representation of Vader just chucking garbage at Luke. Not sold on Absorb Energy, I know why he has it but he isn't actually absorbing the energy (or even using the Force.) Lamely enough its his glove that repels Han's blaster bolt. But overall I really like it.

Darth Vader, Hand of the Emperor by Gungan Batman Clone 8.75Crushing Blow is a very nice touch, his CE plus Bring him to Me might be a bit much together though.

Luke Skywalker of Cloud City by saber1 9.5
Flavor of most abilities is excellent, MWYHL has had most of the "kinks" worked out and still retains its coolness, usefullness, and flavorfullness...ness.

Lord Vader, Agent of the Empire by Lord Ball 8.75
Not a fan of wrecking Talon squads that use Lobot, having it affect only your squad is cool, having it really mess with someone's squad right as it hits the table is another thing. Otherwise everything looks good with some interesting choices...Surprise Move does not seem very Vader like to me...but I understand why you have it. I think I would have opted for Surprise Attack instead.

Excellent entries everyone, and its a tough call between saber1 and pegolego...But I think I'm gonna go with saber1 this week
pegolego
Posted: Thursday, May 29, 2014 5:27:42 PM
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AndyHatton wrote:


Darth Vader, Father of the New Hope by pegolego 9.5
Loner is nice and Turn to the Dark Side is always a nice flavorful ability even if it i rarely used. Force Blast is a nice representation of Vader just chucking garbage at Luke. Not sold on Absorb Energy, I know why he has it but he isn't actually absorbing the energy (or even using the Force.) Lamely enough its his glove that repels Han's blaster bolt. But overall I really like it.



Interestingly enough, I barely added Absorb Energy, since my Vader wasn't really meant to represent that scene anyway, and I wasn't sold on the idea of it myself; I figured ranged defense couldn't hurt though, and per suggestion figured it would make a good addition; the more I think about it though, I don't need ranged defense on a piece representing a duel, so there's a high likelihood that it'll come off lol.
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Posted: Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:53:45 PM
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AndyHatton wrote:
Lord Vader, Agent of the Empire by Lord Ball 8.75
Not a fan of wrecking Talon squads that use Lobot, having it affect only your squad is cool, having it really mess with someone's squad right as it hits the table is another thing.


It only messes with the blanket +4/+10 so it's not like he becomes useless just slightly less effective. What it should mostly do to talon squads that use lobot is alter the players strategy (an altered deal Smile ), such as have the reinforcement pieces become sacrificial lambs (MTB becomes an instant counter to Vader). Also you can choose to not add any characters I believe.
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Posted: Friday, May 30, 2014 3:43:23 AM
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It also shuts down My Pets from Mykr making him much less effective against Vader himself, and not taking any pieces does not seem fair either, it costs them 27 points for an override piece with 20 hp? Frankly it shuts down nearly all of what you want Talon for, he isn't being played just for his secondary CE and disruptive. Again not a fan of pieces that look at a squad and go "nah, you don't get to do any of the neat things you thought you could do."
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Posted: Friday, May 30, 2014 7:42:37 AM
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You mean like Talon?
:-D
Lord_Ball
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AndyHatton wrote:
It also shuts down My Pets from Mykr making him much less effective against Vader himself, and not taking any pieces does not seem fair either, it costs them 27 points for an override piece with 20 hp? Frankly it shuts down nearly all of what you want Talon for, he isn't being played just for his secondary CE and disruptive. Again not a fan of pieces that look at a squad and go "nah, you don't get to do any of the neat things you thought you could do."

that all is only effective while the reinforcements are in play so playing against vader it is likely to your advantage to not take pieces (or take a MTB and sacrifice pieces to win init early on after sacrificing the MTB you regain the full benefits of talon).
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Lord_Ball wrote:
AndyHatton wrote:
It also shuts down My Pets from Mykr making him much less effective against Vader himself, and not taking any pieces does not seem fair either, it costs them 27 points for an override piece with 20 hp? Frankly it shuts down nearly all of what you want Talon for, he isn't being played just for his secondary CE and disruptive. Again not a fan of pieces that look at a squad and go "nah, you don't get to do any of the neat things you thought you could do."

that all is only effective while the reinforcements are in play so playing against vader it is likely to your advantage to not take pieces (or take a MTB and sacrifice pieces to win init early on after sacrificing the MTB you regain the full benefits of talon).


I understand that, however I still think it is too hosey against a fairly new squad type.
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Posted: Sunday, June 1, 2014 7:43:45 AM
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I'll tally up votes this evening and announce the winner Smile
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Lord_Ball wrote:
AndyHatton wrote:
It also shuts down My Pets from Mykr making him much less effective against Vader himself, and not taking any pieces does not seem fair either, it costs them 27 points for an override piece with 20 hp? Frankly it shuts down nearly all of what you want Talon for, he isn't being played just for his secondary CE and disruptive. Again not a fan of pieces that look at a squad and go "nah, you don't get to do any of the neat things you thought you could do."


that all is only effective while the reinforcements are in play so playing against vader it is likely to your advantage to not take pieces (or take a MTB and sacrifice pieces to win init early on after sacrificing the MTB you regain the full benefits of talon).


Actually, even if you sacrifice the pieces with an MTB and then kill the MTB, they are still considered to be "in your squad," so Talon's stuff still wouldn't work. Kind of like how killing Ferus Olin after he switches sides also disables Talon's stuff.
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Posted: Sunday, June 1, 2014 9:00:22 AM
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Who won? Or was this the last one we were going to do.
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Posted: Sunday, June 1, 2014 12:18:06 PM
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Totals for this week:

GunganBatmanClone: Average rating of 8.333...

pegolego: Average rating of 9.16...7 and BlooMilk

Lord_Ball and AndyHatton: Tied with an average rating of 9.25 and BlooMilk

One vote also went to saber1, but we don't know his final entry, which did not qualify in the end as he was not able to rate this time around. Deathwielded also was not able to rate and vote.

So, LB and Andy (in my opinion, the two best entries, both deserving Smile) have tied as champions in this week's contest. One Vader and one Luke, coincidentally enough Wink

You guys can agree to a victory, or default to a tie-breaker of some kind if you like. Let me know who is ultimately selected and I'll put up the thread for next week's contest. Since the extended schedule did not seem to help with participation, and some people still were not able to rate either, we will be returning to a more normal schedule.

Also, feel free to choose something a bit different if you like (such as my 2 way duelist contest this week), just not TOO crazy that it gets hard to rate... Feel free to BM me to talk it over.

Thank you so much for your participation this week, everybody! ThumbsUp BlooMilk
Lord_Ball
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SignerJ wrote:
Lord_Ball wrote:
AndyHatton wrote:
It also shuts down My Pets from Mykr making him much less effective against Vader himself, and not taking any pieces does not seem fair either, it costs them 27 points for an override piece with 20 hp? Frankly it shuts down nearly all of what you want Talon for, he isn't being played just for his secondary CE and disruptive. Again not a fan of pieces that look at a squad and go "nah, you don't get to do any of the neat things you thought you could do."


that all is only effective while the reinforcements are in play so playing against vader it is likely to your advantage to not take pieces (or take a MTB and sacrifice pieces to win init early on after sacrificing the MTB you regain the full benefits of talon).


Actually, even if you sacrifice the pieces with an MTB and then kill the MTB, they are still considered to be "in your squad," so Talon's stuff still wouldn't work. Kind of like how killing Ferus Olin after he switches sides also disables Talon's stuff.

Ah yes I forgot that so I altered the ability so it only affects the characters while they are in play (once defeated they retain their original faction).


If Andy wants he can decide, as he's been away from the contests for a bit so perhaps he can come up with some fresh ideas.
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Posted: Monday, June 2, 2014 11:12:54 AM
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Lord_Ball wrote:


If Andy wants he can decide, as he's been away from the contests for a bit so perhaps he can come up with some fresh ideas.


Thanks! I'll send my thoughts over to Pego
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