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I've been looking at some custom pieces and official pieces, and I'm just wondering...how powerful is Avoid Defeat, in-game? I've always considered it as a once-in-a-blue-moon kind of SA, but apparently some people see it as a big deal on Atton "Jag" Rand, so what do you think of it? Is it a powerful SA that should noticeably affect the cost of a piece it's on, or is it more flavorful than actually useful?
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It's relatively minor. I've played both with and against Jaq many times, and it rarely has a huge impact on the game. Sometimes it does, but sometimes crits do too, that's the nature of the beast. It definitely affects the cost of a piece, but not as much as a serious defensive ability like Evade. It only has a 50% chance of working with a single FPRR and 25% of the time without the reroll, and there are enough multi-attackers that a character with it still usually dies in the phase it would have died in even without it.
The dislike of it is usually just that it's a high variance, high influence ability. When Atton does survive because of it and gets to activate and win the game, you're gonna remember that forever. But that doesn't happen a whole lot.
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minor inconvenience, I've made both saves once, and I think Joe maybe twice. even if both saves are made, you come back with 10 HP. you'll die again soon enough 
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However I really like the new escape death-like CE that Passal brought to the game for huges. It is fitting as they should be tough I take out and happens 50% of the time which makes it more fun. Avoid defeat is almost into reserves level territory for unlikely. So I consider it minor, as proven by the new Mara Jade.
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I actually really like the ability, especially on Atton. Last time I used him he made 4 successful resuscitations and lived to the end of the game. I guess its all about luck, I'd price it around half of what you'd add for evade because you need two saves and all that.
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One time (400 points all Unique game I believe) I saved Avoid Defeat with Jaq 4 or 5 times (and I think I still lost...) lol, but in general I don't think it has too much influence in the game. As something given out en-masse (like with Leia/Poggle's CEs, though 1 save 16 is arguably tougher to make obviously, if you have FP to reroll especially) I can see it being a major problem though.
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