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Soresu and Energy Shield Options
DarthMaim
Posted: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 3:07:52 PM
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How does the process work with Energy shield and Soresu Style? What happens first? Both special abilities say "when hit by an attack? Can I choose energy shield first, in which case the attacker has to roll the 11, then if he does roll the 11, I can then roll my Soresu save?

FlyingArrow
Posted: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 5:04:45 PM
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Yes. With simultaneous effects, the acting player decides the order. (If both players have effects to resolve, the acting player decides which player resolves effects first... one player resolves all their effects in the order of their choosing and then the other player resolves theirs.)

So you can choose the order.
If you choose Soresu, then the damage is negated. In which case there is no damage to send back to the enemy with Energy Shield.
Chargers
Posted: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 2:45:21 AM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
Yes. With simultaneous effects, the acting player decides the order. (If both players have effects to resolve, the acting player decides which player resolves effects first... one player resolves all their effects in the order of their choosing and then the other player resolves theirs.)

So you can choose the order.
If you choose Soresu, then the damage is negated. In which case there is no damage to send back to the enemy with Energy Shield.


Just adding emphasis to acting player.

FlyingArrow is correct, as usual. To clarify: The defender is not the acting player so they would not choose; the attacker would.
DarthMaim
Posted: Thursday, September 24, 2015 9:03:06 AM
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I do not doubt you guys on this ruling. Is there something on "simultaneous effects"? Where can I find this info in the archives?
DarthMaim
Posted: Thursday, September 24, 2015 9:14:11 AM
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So for clarification purposes, my mini has soresu style, and has an energy shield mini adjacent to it. The enemy mini targets my mini, rolls a d20, hits, then the attacker (acting player), chooses for me to make my soresu save, which I don't roll an 11, so then, the attacker rolls the energy shield save, to try an avoid the damage going back at him. This is how this works, right? I assume that if you slip "evade" in instead of soresu, it would work the same?
FlyingArrow
Posted: Thursday, September 24, 2015 10:08:19 AM
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Chargers wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:
Yes. With simultaneous effects, the acting player decides the order. (If both players have effects to resolve, the acting player decides which player resolves effects first... one player resolves all their effects in the order of their choosing and then the other player resolves theirs.)

So you can choose the order.
If you choose Soresu, then the damage is negated. In which case there is no damage to send back to the enemy with Energy Shield.


Just adding emphasis to acting player.

FlyingArrow is correct, as usual. To clarify: The defender is not the acting player so they would not choose; the attacker would.


Actually (and swinefeld can correct me if I'm wrong), each player is the acting player for his own abilities. When both players have abilities to trigger, the attacker (as the acting player on the attack) decides who does the abilities first. But of the defender's 2 abilities, he would decide which to use first.
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