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Specific piece in question: Luke Skywalker, Hero of Endor Luke has LS Assault, Twin, and Djem So If he is hit and he has a successful Djem So save roll can he then use LS Assault in combo with twin to deliver 4 strikes (2 attacks with twin) back at the piece that hit him?
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donnyrides wrote:Specific piece in question: Luke Skywalker, Hero of Endor Luke has LS Assault, Twin, and Djem So If he is hit and he has a successful Djem So save roll can he then use LS Assault in combo with twin to deliver 4 strikes (2 attacks with twin) back at the piece that hit him? I would say yes. Djem So states after the save roll you can make an immediate attack. LS Assault replaces attack. The only thing that would stop this is if you have already used a force power. But hey, I could be wrong, ya know?
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No. Djem So + Twin would grant him 2 attacks. But "replaces attacks" refers to the "attacks" portion of your turn, so LSA cannot be used on someone else's turn.
Glossary:
"Instead of making its normal attack or attacks, a character using this Force power makes two attacks against an adjacent enemy (these can target different enemies)."
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@FlyingArrow - I went to the glossary and was hoping for it to say "usable only on this character's turn:" like a lot of other FPs. That would clear this up with no problem. That's getting pretty technical to expect players to understand the difference between "its normal attack" and "may make an immediate attack". There have to be a lot of people who have used Luke HoE at a competitive level. How have you played this?
I'll be honest, I was hoping the outcome of this question was going to be what Caedus gave, so that is why I'm contesting. Not trying to get into an argument, just trying to get my way :)
** FOLLOW UP TO ORIGINAL QUESTION **
If Leia is with this luke and she allows him to make an immediate attack, Which of these things can happen:
1. Luke CAN use twin
2. Luke CAN use LS Assault
3. Luke gets only 1 attack (no twin or LS assault)
4. Luke gets +4+10 on all attack (if applicable)
5. Luke gets +4+10 to only his first attack
Confusing, I know, but I want to make sure I'm playing correctly and I think this is very valuable for new BlooMilk users and even to some of the seasoned vets of the game
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Here's the definition for "replaces attacks": Quote:
replaces attacks
Some Force powers or special abilities have “replaces attacks” as a special cost. A character who uses such a Force power or special ability can’t make other attacks that turn, even if another ability allows extra attacks, and can’t replace more than one attack. When making an attack of opportunity, a character cannot use a Force power or special ability that replaces attacks. A character cannot use a Force power or special ability that replaces attacks in the same turn that it uses a Force power or special ability that replaces its turn.
You're right that it doesn't say "usable only on this character's turn", but replaces attacks is a pretty standard thing. A turn is made up of attacks and movement. You can replace those attacks, and that's what the "replaces attacks" abilities are referring to. You can't throw grenades or use Force Push on a Djem So either, for example.
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donnyrides wrote:
** FOLLOW UP TO ORIGINAL QUESTION **
If Leia is with this luke and she allows him to make an immediate attack, Which of these things can happen:
1. Luke CAN use twin
2. Luke CAN use LS Assault
3. Luke gets only 1 attack (no twin or LS assault)
4. Luke gets +4+10 on all attack (if applicable)
5. Luke gets +4+10 to only his first attack
Confusing, I know, but I want to make sure I'm playing correctly and I think this is very valuable for new BlooMilk users and even to some of the seasoned vets of the game
1 and 5 are true. He can use twin attack and he gets +4/+10 but only on the first part of it.
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FlyingArrow wrote:Here's the definition for "replaces attacks":
You're right that it doesn't say "usable only on this character's turn", but replaces attacks is a pretty standard thing. A turn is made up of attacks and movement. You can replace those attacks, and that's what the "replaces attacks" abilities are referring to.
You can't throw grenades or use Force Push on a Djem So either, for example. To follow up on this, something like "usable on this character's turn" allows you to do anything you can normally do, and still use that ability. Ex. You can use Jedi Mind Trick or Sith Battle Manipulation anytime during your turn, but you may proceed with your entire turn as if you hadn't (barring Force limitations). These abilities do not replace anything. I could run 12 and use an ability like this if I wanted to.
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