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Lafcadio
Posted: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:09:39 AM
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Sorry, I know this has probably been hashed out before, but something didn't seem quite right to me about the conclusion...

Okay, so, I've got Mace Windu. He takes a hit, but he's got a big line of bodyguards leading away from him. Can the damage be moved down the line from bodyguard to bodyguard?

I submit that it can be. Here is my reasoning:

The rules say: "If an adjacent allied character would take damage from an attack, a Bodyguard character can take the damage instead, even if it is not a legal target for the attacker. A Bodyguard character can't use this special ability when an adjacent ally takes damage from something other than an attack, such as Grenades."

So, if Windu gets hit, but the bodyguard takes the damage, what is he taking the damage from?

From an attack, right? He can't be taking the damage from "Bodyguard", because that would be taking the damage from something other than an attack, which doesn't work.

So the bodyguard (BG1) is now taking damage from an attack (because it can't be damage from Bodyguard - that's illegal). Now BG2 should be able to take the damage from BG1 because BG1 would now be taking damage "from an attack". Same thing with BG2, BG3, and so on...

Thoughts?
juice man
Posted: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 9:29:53 AM
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BG 1 is using the special ability "Bodyguard" to take damage from the attack. The second BG cannot take his damage because that damage came from the "Bodyguard" SA of the first BG.

That's how I understand it.
Lafcadio
Posted: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 3:17:03 PM
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juice man wrote:
BG 1 is using the special ability "Bodyguard" to take damage from the attack. The second BG cannot take his damage because that damage came from the "Bodyguard" SA of the first BG.

That's how I understand it.

Sorry, I don't mean to be rude with this at all, but I'm rather picking apart what you said to explain what I mean:

"BG1 is using the special ability "Bodyguard" to take damage from the first attack." He is taking the damage from an attack. He is using Bodyguard to do it, but the damage is still coming from an attack. "Bodyguard" is the reason he can take the damage, but it's not what the damage is coming from... It can't be coming from "Bodyguard", or the Bodyguard couldn't take the damage, because "Bodyguard" isn't an attack...

"The second BG cannot take his damage because that damage came from the "Bodyguard" SA of the first BG." The damage now going to BG1 couldn't have come from "Bodyguard" (must be from an attack), so BG2 should still be able to take it, and so on...

Am I still missing something?
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 5:40:41 PM
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You may be on to something there. I don't remember the ruling. In pretty much every other ability that redirects damage, it's clear that the damage is *new* damage that is generated. Like Lightsaber Reflect. For Bodyguard, I think it is the original damage (which is why the Bodyguard can be Disintegrated).

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Edit: Found it.

From the FAQ
Q: Suppose Emperor Palpatine is adjacent to a Royal Guard, who in turn has a Twi'lek Bodyguard adjacent to him. If the Emperor takes damage that is transferred to the Royal Guard, can that damage then be transferred to the Twi'lek ("cascading" the damage from the Emperor "through" the Royal Guard to the Twi'lek)?
A: No. Damage transferred by Bodyguard must be from an "attack," not assigned by a special ability.
juice man
Posted: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 6:15:30 PM
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Lafcadio wrote:
Sorry, I don't mean to be rude with this at all
No problem, your reasoning is sound, it just doesn't work "in game". And I didn't think to look up the FAQ's. Thanks FA.
Lafcadio
Posted: Monday, July 18, 2016 1:49:21 PM
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Ok, fair enough. Thanks guys!
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