You are clever, sir!

I think they are fine as is. Technically who is to say they aren't living? Living force and all that jazz. Also it's a neat boost for the Sith/Rebels that could use the extra force points

I wish they couldn't haunt each other, and I think we have about as many as we can support, I think they are fine for the most part.

I think the stacking Force pools are kinda cool. You kinda need it to get any good use out of Nihilus, and it helps Caedus a ton. Thematically, the idea behind a force ghost haunting someone is that they are teaching them about the force. There's nothing terribly convincing about Bane's ghost teaching Nihilus's ghost, but that's not to say it couldn't happen - just it probably wouldn't, from what we've seen of dead Sith's egos.

As far as living goes, I think the mechanic refers more to "Is this machinery, or not?" Ghosts certainly aren't droids or tanks. The person themselves obviously died, but if a Jedi or Sith spirit is still doing stuff and talking to people, I don't think you could say that their spirit "died," so that would technically leave you with a "living" entity - even if not flesh-and-blood. Transfer Essence is odd, but if a force ghost is a concentration of Force energy I think it's reasonable enough to transfer into it.

I vote that Force ghosts count as legally alive

Only light spirits. And Exar if you bring Gantoris.

No Freedon Nadd or Marka Ragnos.

So there are only 3 force spirits you can bring into NR that couldn't get there without Tionne.


Regardless, we made Tionne significantly over costed (on purpose, to prevent abuse). I can't imagine it ever being a problem.

Sorry I was using bloomilk to count and Arca isn't there yet.

So 4 that you normally couldn't have without Tionne

Don't like living spirits in the game for gameplay or thematic reasons. It was a silly loop hole wizards just never cared about but it wasn't a problem in the early competitive game. Then as we got more spirits they became a necessary force battery. However, players realized spirits haunting spirits gave you an enhance force battery even more difficult to defeat. Normally, you would attack your opponent and if you defeated a host- you also defeat the ghost. But when the host is a ghost, instead of attacks you need force points and luck to defeat them. Perhaps the larger negative effect was that designers couldn't create cool additional or alternative force batteries because..well ghosts. Then Transfer essence into ghosts became a thing. Transferring into ghosts that can walk through walls and cannot be attacked is one of the dirtiest tricks in the game. It' even meaner than Swap, but fortunately the transfer essence pieces we have don't build anything on the power level of a Thrawn squad. But don't expect to be seeing any new Transfer Essence characters anytime soon.

From a thematic standpoint it doesn't make sense. Lightside Spirits are not living. Lightside characters actually die and become one with the force, they pass on into the afterlife but are still able to commune with the living. Yes, Yoda, Obi, Ani spirits all appear to Luke in RotJ. They are all haunting Luke, not each other!

The dark side does not allow one to survive final death. To escape death a Darkside users would Transfer their essence out of their bodies.
They became living energy and required another body or object to inhabit to not be torn apart and face a final death. The Sith were constantly fighting each other for control and strongly believed in not sharing power. It's spurious to think that such evil selfish Sith spirits would seek to help another evil selfish Sith spirit. If Exar Kun transferred his essence into a Dark Force Spirit he'd remain disembodied living energy and not have a physical body able to make atttacks.... that's just silly.

Anyways.. I love force ghosts and Halloween!