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CorellianComedian
Posted: Sunday, September 18, 2016 2:16:42 PM
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TimmerB123 wrote:
1. No Booming Voice
2. No Act Control
3. No commanders with boardwide CEs
5. No characters with reinforcements, reserves or bribery
8. No Override (manual override is fine)


Maybe this was stated somewhere else and I missed it, but is it the abilities that are banned or the characters?

For instance, Valenthyne Farfalla loses some punch without Reinforcements, but is still a pretty solid piece otherwise - does he lose Reinforcements, or is he just banned? Same with R2-D2, Astromech Droid - some players might still be interested in 9 pt movement breaker even without Override. And Thrawn would still be useful even with his CE limited to range 6.

I won't be able to be a part of this tournament, so my opinion either way doesn't matter, but I figured if I wasn't sure about something chances are there are others who need clarification too.
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Posted: Sunday, September 18, 2016 5:47:51 PM
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My inclination is the characters.

The reason being that we are trying to change no rules. If we only restrict squad building, it eliminates those elements without changing any rules.

Also - this makes people explore new characters.

(PS - Thrawn IS range 6. He's legal, just no mas amedda).

Although that brings up a good point - should init control be in the list?
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TimmerB123 wrote:
(PS - Thrawn IS range 6. He's legal, just no mad amedda).


I think Opportunist is boardwide, and swap is within 6?
Caedus
Posted: Sunday, September 18, 2016 6:28:22 PM
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TheHutts wrote:
TimmerB123 wrote:
(PS - Thrawn IS range 6. He's legal, just no mad amedda).


I think Opportunist is boardwide, and swap is within 6?


Yep. That makes Thrawn out but GA Thrawn is still in
CorellianComedian
Posted: Sunday, September 18, 2016 6:36:42 PM
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Caedus wrote:
TheHutts wrote:
TimmerB123 wrote:
(PS - Thrawn IS range 6. He's legal, just no mad amedda).


I think Opportunist is boardwide, and swap is within 6?


Yep. That makes Thrawn out but GA Thrawn is still in


That's interesting. Promotes an old piece, which is good, but promotes Ysalamiri, which is bad.
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Posted: Sunday, September 18, 2016 8:14:57 PM
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TheHutts wrote:
TimmerB123 wrote:
(PS - Thrawn IS range 6. He's legal, just no mad amedda).


I think Opportunist is boardwide, and swap is within 6?


D'oah!

You're right. Does anyone use him without Mas, lol?

And great point - I think Mithrawn not in the format is a good thing
Caedus
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CorellianComedian wrote:
Caedus wrote:
TheHutts wrote:
TimmerB123 wrote:
(PS - Thrawn IS range 6. He's legal, just no mad amedda).


I think Opportunist is boardwide, and swap is within 6?


Yep. That makes Thrawn out but GA Thrawn is still in


That's interesting. Promotes an old piece, which is good, but promotes Ysalamiri, which is bad.


Ysalamiri, IMO, isn't bad because it potentially penalizes both players.
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Posted: Monday, September 19, 2016 9:01:39 AM
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The other route we could go is to just ban certain characters (as opposed to banning characters with x,y,z abilities).

Banning characters with certain abilities is more easily written out and casts a wider net (potentially catching some that probably aren't an issue at all).

Just simply banning certain characters probably makes it harder to catch each one you want (you have to do it individually) and makes for a longer list to write out.

Pluses and minuses both ways
TimmerB123
Posted: Friday, September 23, 2016 3:01:59 PM
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Let's do this.

No sense in just talking about something - let's try it out!


Adding a couple more restrictions to catch more "competitive players" since it is on Vassal (looking at you NZ)

The thread is now up in the Events forum for this tournament!
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Tim are board wide CE commanders out or just their CE? For instance, GOWK, Captain Rex, and Xizor all have board wide CE's but are still playable without.
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Posted: Friday, September 23, 2016 7:12:39 PM
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Caedus wrote:
Tim are board wide CE commanders out or just their CE? For instance, GOWK, Captain Rex, and Xizor all have board wide CE's but are still playable without.


For simplicity's sake - they are out. Rather than change the rules, we are only restricting characters with those abilities. This way a newer player could be handed a squad and simply read the cards and understand everything.

This will certainly make for challenges with squad building, but I think that's a good thing for those who like to build squads. For those who don't like such challenges, we'll simply hand them a squad.
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Posted: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:14:58 PM
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http://www.bloomilk.com/Forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=20217

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yup, doing it now before work! its challenging building a squad for this, i love it!
Question: (sorry for noob questions..) Jaina has lightsaber deflect - which gives save on non-melee attacks.. I imagine that is unlike evade, in that if she gets shot from an adjacent square, she can still deflect?
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Does Lowbacca meet requirements? Advanced Door Gimmick, but i'm after bodyguard anyways...
TimmerB123
Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2016 12:18:08 PM
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DarthRattlehead wrote:
yup, doing it now before work! its challenging building a squad for this, i love it!
Question: (sorry for noob questions..) Jaina has lightsaber deflect - which gives save on non-melee attacks.. I imagine that is unlike evade, in that if she gets shot from an adjacent square, she can still deflect?


Correct
TimmerB123
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DarthRattlehead wrote:
Does Lowbacca meet requirements? Advanced Door Gimmick, but i'm after bodyguard anyways...


He's cool. Just no override
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hows this looking so far? nearly done..

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/172550/vassal-tank-squad
TimmerB123
Posted: Thursday, October 20, 2016 2:33:14 PM
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DarthRattlehead wrote:
hows this looking so far? nearly done..

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/172550/vassal-tank-squad


Looks like fun! Legal too!
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