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FlyingArrow
Posted: Monday, February 13, 2017 8:26:08 AM
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How do people think the OR subfactions are holding up?

I think Arakanian Jedi General squads are Tier 1.5 at best.
How about Covenant?
How about Green Jedi?
How about Army of Light?
jak
Posted: Monday, February 13, 2017 8:43:10 AM
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army of light has been even more powerful by the addition of the Consular.
the Lords have LS def, MotF-2, and now access to Force Bubble, and healing.
THANX Consulars!

ps-also there is this chick named Bastila. she's suppose to be good too
Caedus
Posted: Monday, February 13, 2017 9:46:42 AM
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Cassus fett wrote:
i fully believe That Rebel Ghosts will appear. i also think First Order Daala will show up, i dont know how it will do, but i have a feeling.


I agree.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Monday, February 13, 2017 10:40:19 AM
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jak wrote:
army of light has been even more powerful by the addition of the Consular.
the Lords have LS def, MotF-2, and now access to Force Bubble, and healing.
THANX Consulars!

ps-also there is this chick named Bastila. she's suppose to be good too


Yeah, I'd assume Bastila is in any OR squad other than an AJG squad.
SithBot
Posted: Monday, February 13, 2017 12:12:03 PM
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As a separatist liker I love the uniques of the Separatist, they are very powerful. If you look at them in terms of power vs day say, Darth Krayts hands they are moreso imo. Sora Bulq, maul, Quinlan, dooku, grievous, asajj...
I think there is a real need for more powerful duelists in separatist.

Right now there has to be a tier 1.5 100 dooku squad somewhere
Cassus fett
Posted: Monday, February 13, 2017 2:28:39 PM
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SithBot wrote:
As a separatist liker I love the uniques of the Separatist, they are very powerful. If you look at them in terms of power vs day say, Darth Krayts hands they are moreso imo. Sora Bulq, maul, Quinlan, dooku, grievous, asajj...
I think there is a real need for more powerful duelists in separatist.

Right now there has to be a tier 1.5 100 dooku squad somewhere


The problem I've found is 100 points is a lot to ask. Especially in a faction with pretty poor support that's not for droids. Imperials get away with it because of how Vader of Lothal is designed. The Shien, battle ready and Rapport allow you to build a decent squad around that. Everytime I've tried building with 100 point Dooku its like I'm building two unrelated squads. One with 100point Dooku and one with everyone else. I just really find Supremem Chancellor Palpatine to be a way better piece to use if you're building a "Dueling Seps" squad
Cassus fett
Posted: Monday, February 13, 2017 2:30:16 PM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
How do people think the OR subfactions are holding up?

I think Arakanian Jedi General squads are Tier 1.5 at best.
How about Covenant?
How about Green Jedi?
How about Army of Light?


I've built covenant it's just ok.
Green Jedi I feel isn't quite there yet, almost though.
Army of light, whoo boy. This is where I'd bet. As explained above they've got some serious Kit now
TheHutts
Posted: Monday, February 13, 2017 2:32:29 PM
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Cassus fett wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:
How do people think the OR subfactions are holding up?

I think Arakanian Jedi General squads are Tier 1.5 at best.
How about Covenant?
How about Green Jedi?
How about Army of Light?


I've built covenant it's just ok.
Green Jedi I feel isn't quite there yet, almost though.
Army of light, whoo boy. This is where I'd bet. As explained above they've got some serious Kit now


I think this Covenant Squad would give a lot of competitive squads problems:

--Defending the Covenant--
33 Bastila Shan, Jedi Master
126 Covenant Defender x6
18 Arca Jeth, Jedi Spirit
8 R7 Astromech Droid
10 Army of Light Trooper x2
5 Killik Drone

(200pts. 12 activations)

Although I might drop some Defenders for something else like a shooter or an anti-melee piece (Satele?) to make a more rounded squad.


Also, I don't think First Order Daala squads are as good as regular Daala. I certainly hope they're not.
SithBot
Posted: Monday, February 13, 2017 2:36:50 PM
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Cassus fett wrote:
SithBot wrote:
As a separatist liker I love the uniques of the Separatist, they are very powerful. If you look at them in terms of power vs day say, Darth Krayts hands they are moreso imo. Sora Bulq, maul, Quinlan, dooku, grievous, asajj...
I think there is a real need for more powerful duelists in separatist.

Right now there has to be a tier 1.5 100 dooku squad somewhere


The problem I've found is 100 points is a lot to ask. Especially in a faction with pretty poor support that's not for droids. Imperials get away with it because of how Vader of Lothal is designed. The Shien, battle ready and Rapport allow you to build a decent squad around that. Everytime I've tried building with 100 point Dooku its like I'm building two unrelated squads. One with 100point Dooku and one with everyone else. I just really find Supremem Chancellor Palpatine to be a way better piece to use if you're building a "Dueling Seps" squad


I remember seeing a dooku, Aurra sing assassin, Honda, and ponda squad that was great. Pressing 1.5 imo.
That sidious is monster
General_Grievous
Posted: Monday, February 13, 2017 3:23:59 PM
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SithBot wrote:
Cassus fett wrote:
SithBot wrote:
As a separatist liker I love the uniques of the Separatist, they are very powerful. If you look at them in terms of power vs day say, Darth Krayts hands they are moreso imo. Sora Bulq, maul, Quinlan, dooku, grievous, asajj...
I think there is a real need for more powerful duelists in separatist.

Right now there has to be a tier 1.5 100 dooku squad somewhere


The problem I've found is 100 points is a lot to ask. Especially in a faction with pretty poor support that's not for droids. Imperials get away with it because of how Vader of Lothal is designed. The Shien, battle ready and Rapport allow you to build a decent squad around that. Everytime I've tried building with 100 point Dooku its like I'm building two unrelated squads. One with 100point Dooku and one with everyone else. I just really find Supremem Chancellor Palpatine to be a way better piece to use if you're building a "Dueling Seps" squad


I remember seeing a dooku, Aurra sing assassin, Honda, and ponda squad that was great. Pressing 1.5 imo.
That sidious is monster


It used to be legendary with Geonosians as they worked well with his CE too. But those were before the dark times haha.
Caedus
Posted: Monday, February 13, 2017 3:37:22 PM
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SithBot wrote:
Cassus fett wrote:
SithBot wrote:
As a separatist liker I love the uniques of the Separatist, they are very powerful. If you look at them in terms of power vs day say, Darth Krayts hands they are moreso imo. Sora Bulq, maul, Quinlan, dooku, grievous, asajj...
I think there is a real need for more powerful duelists in separatist.

Right now there has to be a tier 1.5 100 dooku squad somewhere


The problem I've found is 100 points is a lot to ask. Especially in a faction with pretty poor support that's not for droids. Imperials get away with it because of how Vader of Lothal is designed. The Shien, battle ready and Rapport allow you to build a decent squad around that. Everytime I've tried building with 100 point Dooku its like I'm building two unrelated squads. One with 100point Dooku and one with everyone else. I just really find Supremem Chancellor Palpatine to be a way better piece to use if you're building a "Dueling Seps" squad


I remember seeing a dooku, Aurra sing assassin, Honda, and ponda squad that was great. Pressing 1.5 imo.
That sidious is monster

I ran a Dooku, Aurra Sing, Cad Bane squad that was decent. It held up pretty well and with the right match ups, would do well.
Deus Sol
Posted: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 12:06:57 PM
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I think we'll see a squad like this do pretty well:
--Jaina NR--
56 Jaina Solo, Sword of the Jedi
45 Han Solo, Corellian Legend
27 Lobot
25 Head of State Jagged Fel
23 General Wedge Antilles
10 R2-D2, Galactic Hero
9 General Dodonna
5 Salacious Crumb

(200pts. 8 activations)
Just because it has lots of innate power, so it can take disruptives/bastila on pretty well, gets to roll init (lol), while smacking things around and doing other generic NR things. Seems at least tier 1.5 if not t1!
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 8:38:59 AM
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Deus Sol
Posted: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 9:31:09 AM
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FlyingArrow wrote:


I like it but it has too many hard-counters in Pawn Lancer/SkyBuck/GallopGrievous and the like. Even if those squads are t1.5 then you're playing the odds that the person playing it is gonna lose matches before they get to you. Probably loses to Dance of Death because there are so many dudes its hard to position them well. And its at most 50/50 vs. Movin Mandos just because Vindicated is amazing after Resol'nare movement. Maybe t2 or t1.5.
P.S. your list on page 1 is actually super useful thanks
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