Again, asking Donny about the "math" part of it would get you a better answer than my guess. I've noticed that when I add a CE I just treat it as an expensive SA. The scary part is there are actually several thresholds, point-wise. Another is around 42-43 and another in the upper 50's. I so rarely go there I can't remember ... The costing calculator I use goes haywire after 70 or so ... just like a broken piece its mostly guesswork after that ....

While I've never gone down the list of SA's, I've almost never seen anything more expensive that a 5; I say almost because I could almost swear I saw something as a 6 or 8 once a few years ago ... but I'm not sure and it may have had a few beers involved ........

FYI - I didn't create the Excel cost calculator I use. A blessed lost soul from the ancient WOTC forum days created it. I "acquired" it around 07-08, tried a few changes myself and then Donny helped me redo some of the "Broken" parts last year.

It actually came out about 22, but Rebel Cell being the great unknown, I penalized myself 2 more to make it 24



FYI - much better description of why things work that way , better than my poor attempts at explaining it

Interestingly enough, since I was a little put off by the wording myself, I'd actually reworded it last night .....







Is it "elegant?" Heck no, but it is a tad cleaner which is good enough for me. If I was good at this, I'd be a
V-Setter

PS - As has been said, I could have added Camaraderie and gotten around the No CE in any number of ways (and eliminated Ind. Outfit,) but I wanted to "penalize" myself by using Ind. Outfit as a Separate SA and going the full 5 SA's. The way I've worded it, any future Twi'leks that Aren't Rebel or Fringe will also benefit; and I think I've got a few of my cards that are other factions ....

1. Kamikaze13

2. Spryguy

3. Blemelisk

1: Spryguy: I liked the abilities this char had, I could def see her being a deep operative and the abilities you gave her make her one
2: Lord_Ball: you def made a Con Artist with the abilities etc that you made.
3: Alex: you have basically created what I think is a very Rebel character. Though at first the synergy got me put off a bit at first, but then I could see this char being in a squad of scouts (as generally rebels are better in groups that work from each others strengths). As well as iirc Imperial scouts having a new commander i could have sworn i saw somewhere, may have just been a random custom. I like it.


3.5: Sithbot: I want to see more mobile attack characters with tactical shot, that is a dang good combo.

4: Surf: You def made a rebel cell leader, and ...for whatever reason you did it without a CE (which was part of your own rules). The thing is, is that you DID give the character a CE, not only is it a CE it is a pretty complex and multiple part CE that you simply made into 2 SAs. Rebel Cell and the Synergy are both in my opinion CEs. With either one being made into a CE would have been fine (outside of the rules of this contest, but fine as a design choice) with the other staying an SA would be fine in my book. It just seems that if you are going to make a CE into an SA to get around Disruptive etc, then there will soon be a new SA that prevents those SAs as well, and then what is the point? The bottom line is, I actually like this character and what she does (it is why I am mentioning her here), I simply dont like 2 SAs that at least one should have been a CE. Please understand this isnt an attack and is just my opinion when it comes to character design Cheers!


5: my piece: Im not actually voting for it as it seems to be taboo to vote for your own piece and im 100% behind that, but I wanted to try to explain why I chose what I chose for this character, something I should have done earlier this week but time got away from me.

It's a Trap and override was the evidence she was a double agent. Betrayal would mean another piece betrayed its side, not the double agent. This piece betrays who has stealth and has the ability to override doors (i.e. knows the codes to them) for one side but not the other (though she can be in an imperial squad as well). She also has a decent chance to hit as well as damage something. But Betrayal wasnt the thing I was thinking about, I did have in mind an ability that would make her switch sides after some sort of trigger, but with the way she is built she is an effective agent for both sides (rebel and imperial) that reveals (thus removes) stealth from characters waiting in ambush, and has the codes to the doors to open and close them with override.

For this reason she is a double agent, not because she has others betray their side, but because she has betrayed her opponent, for the cause of her choice (rebel or imperial)

1 Sithbot
2 GG
3 Blemelisk




It's not the first time a character had a subname of an ability but didn't have that ability [*cough*]Grievous, Jedi Hunter [*cough*] As for cost, She is kind of like a Fringe Jar Jar (who's 16 points), but her lower HP/Def and the negative ability Untrustworthy certainly help to bring the cost down, maybe a slightly bit undercosted still but I wouldn't think egregiously so.

It shouldn't stack, so Mines and Flash Grenade would both be a save of 15.

Looks like we have a tie

Spryguy and Blemelisk

which is cool since Spryguy gave Blemelisk 3 pts and Blemelisk gave Spryguy 3 points.

Voting window has passed technically So we should collaborate on the new week lol.

Nice work guys! Couldn't have happened better this week