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I agree with waiting til after gencon so we can truly see how these things go, but I am worried that some squads like jangalore and blast bugs that may prevent new players from really getting into the game if that's what they run into at gencon who wants to get out activated and then watch as they take automatic damage that they can't do anything about from outside a disruptive bubble from cloaked pieces that cost like 7-9....

Moving thread to stop us jacking the Wisconsin regional.

Who won?

Add it to the list. +1

45 pt piece that is offensive only. It needs a lot of help to be dangerous and survive, ie; TBSV, Wedge, Mouse Droid ( That's 44 pts, if you are counting at home, 1 less than the piece itself costs). That is not over powered. Maybe Wedge and the TBSV are overpowered? No, that sounds ridiculous too.

Here is my squad

--Eryl must die (WI 2017 Regional Winner)--
45 Han Solo, Corellian Legend
34 Jedi Master K'Kruhk
29 Ganner Rhysode
23 General Wedge Antilles
18 Twi'lek Black Sun Vigo
15 Eryl Besa
13 BB-8
9 General Dodonna
5 Killik Drone
3 Mouse Droid
6 Ugnaught Demolitionist x2


Rd 1 against Tim B. and Mandos
I start very far forward, and intuition and then later Han gets to shoot some stuff (finds a clear line) and evades the damage coming back. KKruhk goes into the mando den, and BB8 locks him in (and the mandos away from Han). Rd 2 Tim forgets that none of his commanders moved up and tries to use kelborn to pound on KKruhk but doesn't get the twins. I then pound on Kelborn. He then uses 2 sabs to kill kkruhk (he makes the avoid defeat here), and Han gets in deep with BB8 to Kill Kelborn and pick off some other guys (no death shots as he still hasn't moved guys forward). Maul finally moves up, Ganner gets Han out to safety. Kkruhk dies on his sword (for reals this time) doing some damage to MAul. Next round its some more dancing and Han Finishes off Maul and its not long after that I enter mop up phase. 1-0 3pts

Rd 2 against Laura and Her OR beef
She Pops Bastilla Rd 1, so I have a very immobile HAn. I still get some shots with him (just not the ones I want). At the top of Rd 2 she finishes off Kkruhk and Eryl and I take out Vima (although Sateles Bodyguard makes it scary for a sec. We do some more dancing. I am backpedalling the whole way as the BG caught me off guard and if it weren't for a failed Absorb Energy Save, Satele would live and I would have been in DEEP trouble. It's a true war of attrition as by the end, most of my guys are down to 30 or less, but I eek out the win. 2-0 6pts

Rd 3 against Bryan playing "Bryan's Resistance"
He totally set me up and I fell for it. He got to Force Absorb my Leaping Assault and basically traded Poe for KKruhk AND Eryl. And he had a decent setup. Problem was he couldn't keep up the assault on Gambit and I used BB8 running back and forth to switch my attack angle so Chewie couldn't get off a barage. In fact, he didn't get one off the whole match. Bryan made a last ditch effort, but my BB8 was close enough to Base Chewie and Han taking away the Resistance BG, so that I could Kill chewie. Han did some damage after that, but it was too late. 3-0 9 pts

Rd 4 against Etienne and his Wraiths
The first Round I got Deep with Han and took out his 2 uggs and a mouse and then did my normal trick of moving letting Kkruhk into the henhouse and closing the door behind him with BB8 keeping his guys away from mine. Kkruhk did his thing sucking up damage and killing stuff, most notably the Klat Captain. After that, kills some guys, but without evade his guys start to fall. The funny moment in this game is when our BB8s got into a slap fight for about 3 rounds off by themselves. In the end, losing the speed 8 and evade was too much to overcome and his wraiths fell. He did roll multiple 1s for attacks and it was one of these on Han that caused him to miss out getting to 100 (and killing Han late). 4-0 12 pts


Finals rematch vs Tim B. Because of the store closing fairly early, before we started it was determined that it would be 4 rounds of Swiss, with the top 2 playing off for the title.
Tim takes the other side of the map and brings in the strike force leader (a cloaked commander) to try and change from the first game we played. Key point in this game was him knowing it was a risk and baiting the trap (leaving kelborn out where I would have to essentially overexpose to get to him AND roll 3 6s with Han to kill him). I saw it, we talked about if for a few seconds. I decided that its only a game and went for it. Moved Beebs up to get the sensors going, moved Han to expose him and of course rolled something like 12,16,14 to kill kelborn. Then moved KKrhuk and Eryl up to get in front of Beebs to protect him. This basically determined the game. If Kelborn lives, I am in big trouble as Han is now out there, and he has a bunch of mobility that he didn't have. Next round KKruhk takes out the Strike for leader and kills a Sab and eats a death shot. A couple more attack later and Kkruhk joins the dead. Eryl makes some evades and he misses on a point blank to let her live (I actually wouldn't have minded a death) so I had to levitate her out of the way, then move some uggies up in a different blocking pattern so Han could kill 2 more of the sabs (with the uggies taking the death shots like good little trooper). towards the end game, it comes down to Me in gambit pushing towards the with him having a sab, Maul (full), JAster and the Captain (who were in the back moving up) to my Wedge (20 off), Han, TBSV, Ganner, and Killik. I use Wedge to kill the last Sab who lands one of the two Death shots (now 50 off wedge). He does the only thing he can and moves up maul (has to spend a force to get there) and of course wedge makes his evade save. I levitate wedge to safety right quick after that. We play a little more Cat and Mouse and I throw Han in adjacent so I can shoot Maul, knowing that if I win init, I Can just go again and kill him, and even if he wins init he can't kill han without a crit (and then I can push Maul to death with ganner assuming the 3 Han shots from the last round hit). If that happened, I was close enough on Gambit (6 rounds), that he couldn't finish off the rest of my squad before I got to 8 rounds of gambit and won on gambit. Well, wouldn't you know that Han rolled a crit on Maul and killed him so it didn't matter. Had to play one more round to kill the captain, but then it was over.



Thoughts and comments
IMO the key to the squad is Eryl and the fact not only does she let everyone else set up closer, she also has forward positioning, which puts her in a GREAT spot to open a key door downfield so you can actually get shots. I have played various variations of Solo charge over the years, and this particular one can start the attacking round 1 with ease. In addition, because it isn't the normal starting area, it create lots of different looks that you just aren't used to seeing. This seemed to throw my opponents off their game a little as it was unexpected and what you normally think of as a safe space in rd 1 to advance might not be safe any longer. The squad is good, although not top tier, or at least not any better than any other version of Ganner in the NR. This one had a slightly different trick, but still just a gimmick away. Tim had a much better matchup the second time around because he had already seen it in action. If a couple rolls go his way in the second game, he could just as easily have been the WI champion.

It was alot of fun, and thanks to Chargers for putting it all together and it seemed like everyone was having fun.

Mandos certainly could win, but and I'd agree with 65/35 NR advantage in a different map. I'd say it goes up to 80/20 on Jason's map (which we played on both times).

When I baited with Kelborn, I knew that was a long shot, but I knew some work had to go my way and if he would've missed that would've brought it back down to about a 60/40 chance for me. Surprisingly, I actually don't think I needed Kelborn's help with movement quite as much as usual at that point i was in a little nook that I didn't need to move much from.

Without Dodonna, we are near even in activations. He can't just wait for me to outactivated, roll in BB-8 (devistating vs my squad with sensors) levitate Han in and GMA accurate triple opportunist.

It was a game where you feel helpless the whole time.

Excellent squad Urban!!!!!!Congrats on the win! Truly amazing to see you win multiple Regionals time and time again every year with different squads. I am in awe. Really shows your talent and prowess in SWM. It solidifies you as being the top SWM regional player of all time! You're the man! Cheers dude!