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Whenever I look at a piece I always look at it in terms of power rankings. So Luke Skywalker, for instance, should be at the top of the list. His mini piece should represent that in terms of game playability. So, in my eyes if Luke Skywalker is top 5 most powerful ever, he should be able to be played competitively, like any time. and how powerful they are should impact the squad in that way. (great example of this is in action is Princess Leia, only 20 points but impacts the game tremendously, powerful stuff. a bad example of this would be Ozzel. Ozzel? who the heck is that guy? why does he control entire games?)
Sidious, the same way. Not just that his individual piece is fantastic, but that he is able to be played and be super competitive.
So that is why Rebels is so cool. individually, not so great, but faction wise, crazy good.
anyway, so I would like to know what people's power ranking is.
I am going to throw out a list of SWM names and you rank them from most powerful to least powerful (this does not mean who wins in a 1 on 1, overall power. Like Dodonna can be more powerful than greedo, even though in a one on one fight Greedo might win). From their overall, prime position.
Cade Skywalker Carth Onasi Bossk Jaina Solo Inquisitor Jabba the Hutt Kyp Durron Kylo Ren Darth Malak Dash Rendar
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Cade Skywalker Carth Onasi Bossk Jaina Solo Inquisitor Jabba the Hutt Kyp Durron Kylo Ren Darth Malak Dash Rendar
My order
Kylo Ren The Inquisitor Jabba The Hutt Bosk The rest tie. Because they don;t exist in Star wars anymore
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shmi15 wrote:Cade Skywalker Carth Onasi Bossk Jaina Solo Inquisitor Jabba the Hutt Kyp Durron Kylo Ren Darth Malak Dash Rendar
My order
Kylo Ren The Inquisitor Jabba The Hutt Bosk The rest tie. Because they don;t exist in Star wars anymore very well. we shall play with only the existing. Kylo Ren The Inquisitor Han Solo Jabba the hutt Bossk Ahsoka Tano Sabine Wren Thrawn Jyn Erso Orson Krennic Maz Kanata
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Kylo Ren Ahsoka Tano Thrawn Han Solo Jabba The Hutt The Inuisitor Orson Krennic Jyn Erso Sabine Wren Maz Kanata Bossk
Based on the characters effect in the Universe, not their representation in SWM correct?
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shmi15 wrote:Kylo Ren The Inquisitor Han Solo Jabba the hutt Bossk Ahsoka Tano Sabine Wren Thrawn Jyn Erso Orson Krennic Maz Kanata
Based on the characters effect in the Universe, not their representation in WM correct?
yes absolutely. but how in the world do you have Ahsoka below Bossk? Ahsoka is crazy powerful. Mine goes like this Ahsoka Tano Inquisitor Han Solo Thrawn Jabba Sabine Krennic Erso Bossk Kanata
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Kylo Ren - No doubt #1 here Inquisitor - Not been in any top tier squads that I've seen, but there is potential Kyp Durron - 90 hp, twin LS assault for 26pts? Not to shabby. Impulsive savagery hurts him of course. Not that great in today's age. Cade Skywalker (didn't say which one, so I assumed the original. There is no simple "Cade Skywalker") - double twin, but no mobile, and expensive. Kinda old these days Jaina Solo - back in the day - ok. Double cunning ain't bad. But of course her main role was always bringing Han into NR Jabba the Hutt - Never that great, but always has potential with more fringe options. Of course he's overshadowed by the other 2 Jabbas Bossk - obviously outclassed being from the first set. But double claw attack wasn't horrible back then. Darth Malak - back in the day, he was stout at least, but never competitive. Now he just plain sucks Carth Onasi - He was a stinker from day 1. Sure he has double twin, but for 10 damage!?! His set piece far surpassed him. Dash Rendar - So horrible. Single attack and opportunist. Nothing else. Obviously his Renegade Smuggler version is amazing and would probably be #1 on this list. Even the not-so-great rebel version is miles ahead of this piece of garbage.
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jen'ari wrote: Kylo Ren The Inquisitor Han Solo Jabba the hutt Bossk Ahsoka Tano Sabine Wren Thrawn Jyn Erso Orson Krennic Maz Kanata
Sabine Wren - insane good. A key part to winning GenCon 2016. Nobody named "Thrawn", so again I assume the original. Very powerful still, but overall outclassed by Mitthrawn. Still earns the #2 spot Kylo Ren - drops to 3 with the new titans added. Jyn Erso - the best of the Rogue Crew (assuming Cassian is along for the ride). Crushed Krennic and DTs in playtests Orson Krennic (I assume this means Director Krennic) - More powerful than expected, in unforeseen combos. Needs to be watched carefully. The Inquisitor - down to #5 Jabba the hutt (see above) Han Solo - Great in Rebel Storm. So outclassed by almost every Han since Bossk (see above) Ahsoka Tano - Not a great piece from the start, worse now. Double and Flurry, but no movement. Lame. Maz Kanata - I hate hate hate "I like that wookiee". Crap like that need not be made.
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jen'ari wrote: but how in the world do you have Ahsoka below Bossk? Ahsoka is crazy powerful.
Ahsoka Tano 20pts Hit Points: 60 Defense: 20 Attack: 7 Damage: 20 Unique Melee Attack (Can attack only adjacent enemies) Double Attack (On her turn, this character can make 1 extra attack instead of moving) Flurry Attack (Whenever this character scores a critical hit, she can make 1 immediate extra attack) Impulsive Sweep (If a Unique allied character is defeated, this character can immediately attack each adjacent enemy once) Synergy (+4 Attack while an allied character whose name contains Anakin is within 6 squares) Force Powers Force 3 Lightsaber Deflect (Force 1: When hit by a nonmelee attack, this character takes no damage with a save of 11) I do not understand why you think this is crazy powerful
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TimmerB123 wrote:jen'ari wrote: but how in the world do you have Ahsoka below Bossk? Ahsoka is crazy powerful.
Ahsoka Tano 20pts Hit Points: 60 Defense: 20 Attack: 7 Damage: 20 Unique Melee Attack (Can attack only adjacent enemies) Double Attack (On her turn, this character can make 1 extra attack instead of moving) Flurry Attack (Whenever this character scores a critical hit, she can make 1 immediate extra attack) Impulsive Sweep (If a Unique allied character is defeated, this character can immediately attack each adjacent enemy once) Synergy (+4 Attack while an allied character whose name contains Anakin is within 6 squares) Force Powers Force 3 Lightsaber Deflect (Force 1: When hit by a nonmelee attack, this character takes no damage with a save of 11) I do not understand why you think this is crazy powerful Were speaking about them in the Star Wars Universe! Not as a Mini! lol
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Ahsoka Tano Inquisitor Han Solo Thrawn Jabba Sabine Krennic Erso Bossk Kanata[/quote]
Hmmm. Been thinking and I think krennic should be jabba level and erso should be below boss. Han Solo had done many more time than the Inquisitor and is my number 2. New rank
Ahsoka Han solo Inquisitor Thrawn Jabba / Krennic Sabine Bossk Erso Kanata
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That was not clear to me
Shouldn't this thread be in the off topic forum then?
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shmi15 wrote:
Kylo Ren Ahsoka Tano Thrawn Han Solo Jabba The Hutt The Inuisitor Orson Krennic Jyn Erso Sabine Wren Maz Kanata Bossk
Based on the characters effect in the Universe, not their representation in SWM correct?
What about this line? I thought this one made it pretty clear what we were discussing
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shmi15 wrote:shmi15 wrote:
Kylo Ren Ahsoka Tano Thrawn Han Solo Jabba The Hutt The Inuisitor Orson Krennic Jyn Erso Sabine Wren Maz Kanata Bossk
Based on the characters effect in the Universe, not their representation in SWM correct?
What about this line? I thought this one made it pretty clear what we were discussing You edited your post, it originally said, "Based on the characters effect in the Universe, not their representation in WM correct?" I genuinely had no idea what WM meant. (Gentle ribbing for you Shmi!) Honestly the OP is very unclear. Since the post really isn't about SWM, it probably should have been in the off topic forum, but it's not a big deal. Regardless, I had fun ranking Star Wars miniatures stats. Sincerely, enjoy ranking the characters in universe.
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jen'ari wrote:)Whenever I look at a piece I always look at it in terms of power rankings. So Luke Skywalker, for instance, should be at the top of the list. His mini piece should represent that in terms of game playability. So, in my eyes if Luke Skywalker is top 5 most powerful ever, he should be able to be played competitively, like any time. and how powerful they are should impact the squad in that way. (great example of this is in action is Princess Leia, only 20 points but impacts the game tremendously, powerful stuff. a bad example of this would be Ozzel. Ozzel? who the heck is that guy? why does he control entire games?
This is why it is about SWM. The bolded parts explain why it is on topic. In other, easier, words.... In my opinion, SWM pieces and abilities and interactions with other allies should be at the same impact as they have in the actual Star Wars verse. So, Luke Skywalker impacted the Star Wars verse tremendously, he is at the very top. Therefore, Luke Skywalker should impact Star Wars minis tremendously. He should be played a lot and competitively. he should be the face of New Republic
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Yeah I see that now.
But I was really having fun ranking the SWM stats, lol.
That's a different thread I guess.
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TimmerB123 wrote:Yeah I see that now.
But I was really having fun ranking the SWM stats, lol.
That's a different thread I guess. I think they should be the same. Two Columns. Ranking in the verse of star wars ------------------- Ranking as a SWM characterSee what the difference is. Like Ahsoka, she is my most powerful of the pieces, but your right, her SWM character is way on the bottom. but what if we used the new Rebel Ahsoka? i will freshen up the list tomorrow with the proper names of the SWM characters. probably not fair to use the old school Ahsoka.
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I'd put SWM Rebel Ahsoka at #1. She's crazy good. Big difference between her first incarnation. (To be fair - in universe there was a huge difference in her power level between those parts of her life)
Heck I think her evolution is valid. First one sucks. The next one (commander Ahsoka) is playable (or at least she certainly was in the pre vset era. Giving out rolling cleave ain't too shabby.). And then Rebel bombshell.
She was still a teenager in first 2 (WotC) pieces. She became a much more competent commander by the period of her second SWM piece. But then she disappeared for awhile, and came back a kick ass jedi. So the huge jump in power level between her Republic pieces and her rebel piece is totally justified.
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Rank these characters under two headings.
How the rank in terms of power as a SWM piece
How they rank in terms of overall power in the star wars realm (movies, books, comics)
Cad Bane Thrawn (Mitth'raw'nuruodo) Mace Windu, Legacy of the Light Side General Skywalker Captain Rex Kanan Jarrus Darth Maul, Death Watch Overlord Han Solo with Bowcaster Supreme Chancellor Palpatine Kylo Ren
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