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Its been a while since I have seen a Vong squad enter a tournament where something isn't messed up.
Do you think its finally time to do away with them, or snip all the v-set pieces and rebuild the Vong to make them easier to understand 5 minutes before a match begins?
If its taking people 10 minues just to read cards and connect dots on who gives what to who at what time in the game, it creates nothing but a NPE for the opponent, who probably has to ask a question every 5-10 minutes to remember if a character has a new ability or not.
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Reminds me of the famous Robert Plant song in the 80's. The lyrics went a little like this; "Bang a Vong, get it on!" Check this song out everyone! Fantastic guitar riffs 
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DarthMaim wrote:Reminds me of the famous Robert Plant song in the 80's. The lyrics went a little like this; "Bang a Vong, get it on!" Check this song out everyone! Fantastic guitar riffs Um, I think that was T Rex in the early 1970s?
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Nope. Hahaha. But do whatever you want, we've been using them since universe and will keep doing whatever we want haha.
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TheHutts wrote:DarthMaim wrote:Reminds me of the famous Robert Plant song in the 80's. The lyrics went a little like this; "Bang a Vong, get it on!" Check this song out everyone! Fantastic guitar riffs Um, I think that was T Rex in the early 1970s? Although I googled it, and apparently The Power Station, with Robert Palmer (so the 'Addicted To Love' guy, not the Led Zeppelin guy), did a cover in the mid 1980s.
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Have you tried turning the Vong off and on again?
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Just hit it on the side really hard.
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shmi15 wrote:Its been a while since I have seen a Vong squad enter a tournament where something isn't messed up.
Do you think its finally time to do away with them, or snip all the v-set pieces and rebuild the Vong asier to under
stand 5 minutes before a match begins?
If its taking people 10 minues just to read cards and connect dots on who gives what to who at wh eeat time in the game, it creates nothing but a NPE for the opponent, who probably has to ask a question every 5-10 minutes to remember if a character has a new ability or not. I do not like Vong at all. I propose that some Vong be placed into fringe as a sub faction. A few commanders, a unique commander, scrubs and then we drop Vong the faction. But the more realistic thing to do is to prepare for Vong before big tournaments. I remember Spry going through a Vong stage and I learned a ton about them in about 4 or 5 games. I wouldn't say I knew everything, but I knew enough to read the cards as refreshers and not the first time I was seeing them. Leaving magic the gathering for a while and the new sets come into play, that first deck you make takes a while to learn all the cards. It sucks! But if you keep up with it it's not so hard.
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shmi15 wrote:Its been a while since I have seen a Vong squad enter a tournament where something isn't messed up.
Do you think its finally time to do away with them, or snip all the v-set pieces and rebuild the Vong to make them easier to understand 5 minutes before a match begins?
If its taking people 10 minues just to read cards and connect dots on who gives what to who at what time in the game, it creates nothing but a NPE for the opponent, who probably has to ask a question every 5-10 minutes to remember if a character has a new ability or not. This game has become so complex that this kind of experience is not limited to the Vong. There are over 60 Camaraderie abilities and then countless straight-up abilities that give stuff to others. This is probably to get around Bastila/Disruptive. It would be unlikely but interesting to see a reworking of some WotC pieces (or faction, worst thing WotC did to the Vong was base damage 10) and many V-Set pieces. That would be a massive undertaking though, with no real chance of popular support.
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gandalfthegreatestwizard wrote:Have you tried turning the Vong off and on again? Turning off the Vong isn't hard (ask Jason, grrrr) but turning them on again is.
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No, Vong do not need to be turned off, changed, etc. I personally have never had any issues learning or running them.
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I think they require a higher learning curve because;
1. They have more synergy between pieces than is typically seen in most factions
2. A lot of people didn't like the vong and avoided their lore. It's easy to see a han piece and know he's going to be a good shooter. it's less easy to see any vong and know what sort of functionality they have if you're not a vong fan.
My solution? I don't play vong because they're overwhelming, and I do my best to not play vong opponents (throw games, cheat, steal, whatever it takes to avoid them).
I have a sneaking suspicion that the Vong are the most powerful faction, it's just that most people don't know how to play them, or don't want to.
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No. we should just design way more powerful pieces in the other factions so that no one plays vong.. that way we can see we didn't ban them or anything, but not have to worry about them.
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 playing vs Vong sucks monkey balls, always has.........always will......... if I gave a rats ass about the game anymore, I'd say" put 'em up against the wall, with the DB's who play them"
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Get real, guys. It's not like we're going to ban or restart a faction because a few people can't be bothered to learn how it plays. There's nothing wrong with the Vong, and nothing wrong with the people who play them. There's something wrong with calling for the abandonment of several years' worth of designers' work just because you don't like the Vong.
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jak wrote: playing vs Vong sucks monkey balls, always has.........always will......... if I gave a rats ass about the game anymore, I'd say" put 'em up against the wall, with the DB's who play them" Wonderful Vong, Lovely Vong Wonderful Vong, Lovely Vong Vong, Vong, Vong, Vong.* * Sung to the "Spam Song"
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