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Snowy Regional--January 17th SQUADS, RESULTS, and PAIRINGS Options
UrbanShmi
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2021 8:18:11 AM
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adamb0nd

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/222054/explosivo

Squad: Explosivo
Zam Wesell, Bounty Hunter
Jabba Desilijic Tiure
Dash Rendar, Renegade Smuggler
Mira of Nar Shaddaa
Bib Fortuna, Majordomo
Klatooinian Assassin
Kel Dor Bounty Hunter
Droopy McCool
Killik Drone

208 (-8 jabba rapport)

Map: Starport Terminal

Caedus

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/219047/heard-about-this-gangster-on-tattooine

--Heard about this Gangster on Tattooine--
34 Chewbacca with Bowcaster
25 Dryden Vos, Crimson Dawn Leader
24 Tobias Beckett, Mercenary
24 Young Han Solo
18 Twi'lek Black Sun Vigo
17 Qi'ra
14 Maul, Hologram
14 Rio Durant
8 R7 Astromech Droid
20 Killik Drone x4
2 Kneesaa, Ewok Princess

(200pts. 14 activations)

Map: Starport Terminal

DarkDracul

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/222047/sabers-to-exegol

--Sabers to Exegol--
35 General Leia Organa
30 Ben Solo, Redeemed
27 Poe Dameron
25 Rey
19 Finn
19 Resistance Captain
17 Nien Nunb, Red Squadron Ace
14 Luke Skywalker, Jedi Spirit
13 BB-8
6 Cobalt Squadron Pilot
(205pts. 10 activations)

Map: Bothan Spynet


DarthFrenchy

--"Roger Stone of SWM V2" 2017 Gencon Champion--
27 Admiral Daala
20 Admiral Piett
16 Admiral Gilad Pellaeon
28 Imperial Officer x2
14 Stormtrooper on Repulsor Sled
26 Elite Scout Trooper x2
11 Captain Needa
8 Mas Amedda
20 Imperial Dignitary x4
5 Killik Drone
25 Raxus Prime Trooper x5

(200pts. 20 activations)

Map: Rhen Var Citadel

Randy

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/223067/babyyodamobile

--BabyYodaMobile--
67 The Mandalorian (Din Djarin) and the Child
40 Zaalbar, "Big Z"
32 Talon Karrde, Information Broker
28 Mira of Nar Shaddaa
22 Mission Vao
8 R7 Astromech Droid
3 Ugnaught Demolitionist

(200pts. 7 activations)

Map: Ravaged Base (Commander's Office)

thereisnotry

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/217508/momentous-commandos

--Momentous Commandos--
47 General Skywalker
33 Captain Rex
25 Elite Republic Commando - Scorch
24 Clone Commander
48 Republic Commando - Sev x3
9 R2-D2, Astromech Droid
8 Mas Amedda
6 Ugnaught Demolitionist x2

(200pts. 11 activations)

Map: Outlaw City

TimmerB123

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/221494/night-cartel

--Night Cartel--
60 Nightsister on Rancor (-2 rapport from Mother Talzin)
35 Jabba Desilijic Tiure (-8 rapport from Bib Fortuna)
31 Mother Talzin
27 Lobot
23 Nightsister Hunter (-2 rapport from Mother Talzin)
20 Bib Fortuna, Majordomo
4 Prowler 1000 Seeker Droid

(200pts. 7 activations)

Map: Starport Terminal

UrbanShmi

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/221958/or-sisters

--OR sisters--
38 Revan, Supreme Commander
37 Satele Shan
31 Mother Talzin
69 Nightsister Hunter x3 (rapport from Mother Talzin)
19 Talia, Nightsister Hunter (rapport from Mother Talzin)
3 Ugnaught Demolitionist
3 XT-6 Droid

(200pts. 9 activations)

Map: Outlaw City

UrbanShmi
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2021 8:18:23 AM
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Round 1 Pairings:

TimmerB123 vs. UrbanShmi

DarkDracul vs Darth Frenchy

Adamb0nd vs thereisnotry

Caedus vs. Randy

Rankings after round 1:
Tourney: snowy regional
Leaderboard after 1 rounds.
1: 3 Points: Randy - W
2: 3 Points: Thereisnotry - W
3: 3 Points: TimmerB123 - W
4: 2 Points: DarthFrenchy - W
5: 1 Points: DarkDracul - L
6: 1 Points: Adamb0nd - L
7: 0 Points: Caedus - L
8: 0 Points: UrbanShmi - L

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Round 2 pairings:

TimmerB123 vs. DarthFrenchy
Randy vs. thereisnotry
Adamb0nd vs DarkDracul
urbanshmi vs. Caedus

Tourney: snowy regional
Leaderboard after 2 rounds.
1: 6 Points: Randy - WW
2: 4 Points: DarthFrenchy - WW
3: 4 Points: DarkDracul - LW
4: 4 Points: Thereisnotry - WL
5: 3 Points: TimmerB123 - WL
6: 3 Points: UrbanShmi - LW
7: 1 Points: Adamb0nd - LL
8: 0 Points: Caedus - LL

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Tourney: snowy regional: Round 3
Randy vs DarthFrenchy
DarkDracul vs TimmerB123
Thereisnotry vs UrbanShmi
Adamb0nd (3 pts) defeated Bye (0 pts) : (200 - 0)

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Tourney: snowy regional: Round 3
DarthFrenchy (3 pts) defeated Randy (0 pts) : (200 - 20)
TimmerB123 (2 pts) defeated DarkDracul (1 pts) : (176 - 128)
Thereisnotry (3 pts) defeated UrbanShmi (0 pts) : (200 - 49)
Adamb0nd (3 pts) defeated Bye (0 pts) : (200 - 0)

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Tourney: snowy regional
Leaderboard after 3 rounds.
1: 7 Points: DarthFrenchy - WWW
2: 7 Points: Thereisnotry - WLW
3: 6 Points: Randy - WWL
4: 5 Points: TimmerB123 - WLW
5: 5 Points: DarkDracul - LWL
6: 4 Points: Adamb0nd - LLW
7: 3 Points: UrbanShmi - LWL
8: 0 Points: Caedus - LL

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UrbanShmi
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2021 8:18:35 AM
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Tourney: snowy regional: Round 1
TimmerB123 (3 pts) defeated UrbanShmi (0 pts) : (217 - 87)
DarthFrenchy (3 pts) defeated DarkDracul (1 pts) : (140 - 106)
Thereisnotry (3 pts) defeated Adamb0nd (1 pts) : (216 - 135)
Randy (3 pts) defeated Caedus (0 pts) : (200 - 50)

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Tourney: snowy regional: Round 2
DarthFrenchy (2 pts) defeated TimmerB123 (0 pts) : (128 - 43)
Randy (3 pts) defeated Thereisnotry (1 pts) : (200 - 141)
DarkDracul (3 pts) defeated Adamb0nd (0 pts) : (200 - 58)
UrbanShmi (3 pts) defeated Caedus (0 pts) : (200 - 37)

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TimmerB123
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2021 10:49:38 AM
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UrbanShmi wrote:
DarthFrenchy

--"Roger Stone of SWM V2" 2017 Gencon Champion--
27 Admiral Daala
20 Admiral Piett
16 Admiral Gilad Pellaeon
28 Imperial Officer x2
14 Stormtrooper on Repulsor Sled
26 Elite Scout Trooper x2
11 Captain Needa
8 Mas Amedda
20 Imperial Dignitary x4
5 Killik Drone
25 Raxus Prime Trooper x5

(200pts. 20 activations)

Map: Rhen Var Citadel


. . . and just like that, people were no longer happy to see Etienne back.

😉
Caedus
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2021 10:52:09 AM
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That is what happens when you take away act control. Be careful what you wish for.
Darth_Frenchy
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2021 11:01:27 AM
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TimmerB123 wrote:


. . . and just like that, people were no longer happy to see Etienne back.

😉


😅 haha mb
adamb0nd
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2021 12:39:25 PM
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Tint beat me 3-1.
Darth_Frenchy
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2021 2:52:21 PM
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Caedus wrote:
That is what happens when you take away act control. Be careful what you wish for.


What happens? 😅
Caedus
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2021 4:57:08 PM
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Big thanks to Laura for putting on this shindig. Big thanks to Etienne, reminding us all that strafe still matters 😆
UrbanShmi
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2021 5:44:14 PM
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Trevor vs Etienne in the finals.

Etienne wins it 200+-40ish.
TimmerB123
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2021 6:39:19 PM
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yay!

Now lets fix Daala for real!
thereisnotry
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2021 6:49:09 PM
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TimmerB123 wrote:
yay!

Now lets fix Daala for real!

Instead of her CE being "Imperial trooper allies gain Charging Fire" ...

"Imperial trooper allies gain Speed 8."
TimmerB123
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2021 6:54:22 PM
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thereisnotry wrote:
TimmerB123 wrote:
yay!

Now lets fix Daala for real!

Instead of her CE being "Imperial trooper allies gain Charging Fire" ...

"Imperial trooper allies gain Speed 8."


Then they move even farther for the cannon shots.

She's just a mess top to bottom. A bad idea at it's very core - hey lets let 5pt pieces do insane amounts of damage. EVEN DIPLOMATS!

At this point I just say ban and let's move on
Darth_Frenchy
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2021 7:06:44 PM
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A pass mechanic in the game would destroy her ability to compete. Once she is out activated it is an up hill battle.

At this point I think we need to stop looking to individual characters and start looking at the game's mechanics instead.

High act squads that have been nerfed.

1. Daala
2. Zygerian Slaver
3. Naboo Death Shots
4. Mouse Droids
5. Poggle
6. Rapport
7. Commando Droid Officer

Am I forgetting any? Wouldn't doubt it 😅
TheHutts
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2021 8:20:08 PM
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I feel like we’ve had a gentleman’s (and ladies!) agreement not to play Daala and Thrawn last year. But really they’re still the best two squad builds out there, even with last year’s changes to Morrigan and tempo control (neither of which adversely affected Daala anyway).
Darth_Frenchy
Posted: Sunday, January 17, 2021 10:44:49 PM
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Classic out act and smash still reigns supreme. Would be nice to have a pass Mechanic like Imperial Assault or Armada. Much better to actually be outplayed rather than just out activated...
Caedus
Posted: Monday, January 18, 2021 6:42:14 AM
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TimmerB123 wrote:
thereisnotry wrote:
TimmerB123 wrote:
yay!

Now lets fix Daala for real!

Instead of her CE being "Imperial trooper allies gain Charging Fire" ...

"Imperial trooper allies gain Speed 8."


Then they move even farther for the cannon shots.

She's just a mess top to bottom. A bad idea at it's very core - hey lets let 5pt pieces do insane amounts of damage. EVEN DIPLOMATS!

At this point I just say ban and let's move on


Her problem is that she is extremely unthematic. Her charging fire isn't the problem. Her prideful isn't a problem. Her having access to every decent commander in imperial. IS. Her design was horribly unthematic. She did not work well with others, other than Tarkin and Pallaeon. She should have had affinity for NR. I hate the idea of banning characters, but other than another errata (please no) I dont know how we nerf her.

This tourney made it abundantly clear that you either run something to stop Daala and lose to the rest of the field, or you hope you dont play Daala. I want it known it isn't a slight on anyone. You play what is legal. Maybe it's time for Daala not to be legal.
adamb0nd
Posted: Monday, January 18, 2021 8:26:38 AM
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Just throw Independent on her.
thereisnotry
Posted: Monday, January 18, 2021 8:52:45 AM
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Yep, I think it's best just to ban her.

I was thinking that giving her Rival for Uniques other than Tarkin or Pellaeon would work (eliminating Piett and Needa) but there are still too many other NPE squad options.


And I'm not so sure that Thrawn is still a problem, now that Ozzel is effectively gone. Am I mistaken here?
TheHutts
Posted: Monday, January 18, 2021 10:37:18 AM
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No one’s really played Mitt Thrawn this past year but I’m assuming that he’d still dominate. Nothing that’s been played really outactivates him and there haven’t been many scissor squads around.
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