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DarkDracul
Posted: Friday, October 18, 2024 1:34:56 PM
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Sorry if there is already one of these out there that I missed.

Seems like a good idea to have a thread for suggestions for fixes or improvements to Vassal.

DarkDracul
Posted: Friday, October 18, 2024 1:38:16 PM
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Can Master Thon and Revan Prodigal Knight get a Range 5 Ring?
(They both have the Range 6 Ring currently but have Repulse 5)
Overley28
Posted: Friday, October 18, 2024 4:11:37 PM
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Making swapping characters easier and possibly a mount feature as well
thereisnotry
Posted: Sunday, October 20, 2024 5:33:57 PM
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DarkDracul wrote:
Sorry if there is already one of these out there that I missed.

Seems like a good idea to have a thread for suggestions for fixes or improvements to Vassal.

This is a great idea, Bryan! Thanks for starting this.

I've bookmarked this thread and will try to remember to check it from time to time, but it would be really helpful if you all would help me. Therefore, if you post a suggestion here, please send me a quick BlooMail, letting me know that you've made a suggestion. That'll notify me so that I actually see your suggestion.

I'll do my best to try to implement any suggestion, as long as it...
(a) is possible for someone like me who does not have a Ph.D in computer programming
(b) won't destroy other features in the mod, and
(c) would be helpful for people who play the game on Vassal

Also, when making your suggestion, please feel free to offer some ideas (if you have any) of how it might be implemented. I've already been able to add some of these suggestions because of the brilliant ideas shared by some players in a conversation.



DarkDracul wrote:
Can Master Thon and Revan Prodigal Knight get a Range 5 Ring?
(They both have the Range 6 Ring currently but have Repulse 5)

Yes! I've now added a "Force Repulse area" command to EVERY mini in the game that has a Force Repulse X ability. You access it by r-clicking on the mini and then selecting it from the popup menu, or else highlighting the mini and pressing CTRL-SHIFT-R. (This is different from the CTRL-A command, which shows the Range 6 ring for all characters.)



Overley28 wrote:
Making swapping characters easier and possibly a mount feature as well

I'd love to do this! It's probably the feature that I've most wanted to add for the longest time, but have not been able to. And so, alas, this falls under (a) in my list above. I will continue to keep an eye out for new features in the Vassal Engine that may allow for this in the future.


Please keep the suggestions coming! I've added the Force Repulse feature to the mod (as well as a Mount feature for Master Thon and the YV Scout on Swoop Analog). When I release the next update to the Vassal mod (likely January, when V-Set 27a is released), everyone will have access to these new features. Until then, you can eagerly anticipate the bliss that will overtake you when the update is ready.
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gandalfthegreatestwizard
Posted: Monday, October 21, 2024 3:22:31 PM
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Darth Nihl, Hand of Krayt has 4 Force points on Vassal but on his card he only has Force 3.

The only real suggestion I have is more sound effects for characters. They're really cool, although obviously they should be a lower priority than things that actually add utility. I don't know how much work it takes to add them. Grievous Hero of Hypori could have his line from the CW 2003 show, "But know that I, General Grievous, am not completely without mercy. I will grant you a warrior's death. Prepare!"
NoffyD
Posted: Monday, October 21, 2024 4:08:05 PM
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And a "Hello There" from General Kenobi would be awesome.
thereisnotry
Posted: Monday, October 21, 2024 5:12:54 PM
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gandalfthegreatestwizard wrote:
Darth Nihl, Hand of Krayt has 4 Force points on Vassal but on his card he only has Force 3.

The only real suggestion I have is more sound effects for characters. They're really cool, although obviously they should be a lower priority than things that actually add utility. I don't know how much work it takes to add them. Grievous Hero of Hypori could have his line from the CW 2003 show, "But know that I, General Grievous, am not completely without mercy. I will grant you a warrior's death. Prepare!"
Thanks for the heads-up about Nihl. Fixed.

What episode & season was Grievous' line from? I think we own those DVDs, so I think I should be able to pull his line from the episode if I know which one it is.

I've got a bunch of sound effects in the mod already; go ahead and play around with it a bit. Highlight a piece and press CTRL-S (it's the same command for any sound) and if there is a sound it'll play for you. The sounds are super-easy to add if I have the sound file.


NoffyD wrote:
And a "Hello There" from General Kenobi would be awesome.
Great idea!
Which version of Kenobi would you like me to place that sound on? GOWK, since he's the most useful one? I'm open to ideas here.
gandalfthegreatestwizard
Posted: Monday, October 21, 2024 5:32:33 PM
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thereisnotry wrote:
What episode & season was Grievous' line from? I think we own those DVDs, so I think I should be able to pull his line from the episode if I know which one it is.

It's "Chapter 20" (tenth episode of Season Two). This scene: https://youtu.be/p3ssjYVdQy0?si=MaFc8llWzQQvqrO1&t=250
thereisnotry
Posted: Monday, October 21, 2024 5:51:46 PM
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gandalfthegreatestwizard wrote:
thereisnotry wrote:
What episode & season was Grievous' line from? I think we own those DVDs, so I think I should be able to pull his line from the episode if I know which one it is.

It's "Chapter 20" (tenth episode of Season Two). This scene: https://youtu.be/p3ssjYVdQy0?si=MaFc8llWzQQvqrO1&t=250
Perfect! Thanks.
I've got it and it's now in the Vassal mod. It sounds pretty sweet. ThumbsUp
NoffyD
Posted: Monday, October 21, 2024 6:05:08 PM
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Yeah gawk is also the most relevant as well because grevious say general kenobi in response
thereisnotry
Posted: Monday, October 21, 2024 6:41:30 PM
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NoffyD wrote:
Yeah gawk is also the most relevant as well because grevious say general kenobi in response
Ok, it's in!

I have the complete audio files from all 6 of the OT and the PT movies, so any quote from any of those movies can easily make it into the vassal mod. It's just a matter of finding the quote in question (pretty easy because I've got them pretty much memorized) and then it's a pretty simple process of using a program to export that selected sound byte into a new file.

...so keep 'em coming!
DarkDracul
Posted: Monday, October 21, 2024 8:54:53 PM
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Giving troopers or Colonel Dyer the Wilhelm Scream would be hilarious.

There's a Wilhelm Scream in every Star Wars movie, except for that abomination The Last Jedi.

Colonel Dyer does the Wilhelm scream in Return of the Jedi and was portrayed by Ben Burtt the sound designer who popularized the sound effect. Stormtroopers or clone troopers do the rest.


NoffyD
Posted: Monday, October 21, 2024 9:42:33 PM
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Do the droids already say Roger Roger? Also I realise this is suggestions for vassal, and shinja is no longer working on the website but a way to download your squads for vassal would be a super cool feature
thereisnotry
Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 8:03:08 AM
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DarkDracul wrote:
Giving troopers or Colonel Dyer the Wilhelm Scream would be hilarious.

There's a Wilhelm Scream in every Star Wars movie, except for that abomination The Last Jedi.

Colonel Dyer does the Wilhelm scream in Return of the Jedi and was portrayed by Ben Burtt the sound designer who popularized the sound effect. Stormtroopers or clone troopers do the rest.
Stormtroopers already had it, but I've now added it to the Clone Troopers. (Btw, this is just for the basic original versions. There are 20+ different kinds of stormtroopers and clone troopers, but right now only the basic ones have the sound...please let me know if you want it on ALL of them.) I've also added it to Col Dyer.

And yeah, we don't talk about the abomination at our house.... ThumbDown



NoffyD wrote:
Do the droids already say Roger Roger? Also I realise this is suggestions for vassal, and shinja is no longer working on the website but a way to download your squads for vassal would be a super cool feature
They do now!

I've been trying to implement the whole import-your-squad-list-into-vassal feature for a long time. I am also the designer for the SW Imperial Assault skirmish mod, and I haven't been able to figure out how to do it (and that's with the help of the website designers doing things on their end to make it possible). Some people were able to do it with the X-Wing Minis module, but truthfully the creators of that must be actual computer programmers because I can't even begin to understand how they make that work...I can't even find the regular pieces in the mod anymore!

So alas, I'm sorry to say that this feature falls under (a) above...I'm just not good enough at this to figure it out.
Lightsaber
Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 12:09:19 PM
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Can we make it so every time you press L it makes a random lightsaber sound? It would make the melee fights much more entertaining...
thereisnotry
Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 5:25:51 PM
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Lightsaber wrote:
Can we make it so every time you press L it makes a random lightsaber sound? It would make the melee fights much more entertaining...
I'm making no promises, but I'll see what I can do....
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