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kezzamachine
Posted: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:07:20 AM
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So, I have a query. I shot JarJar with my Snowspeeder, JarJar made the save and made me target another one of my characters. BUT, the guy he swapped the target to had stealth... does that mean I can't shoot him or doesn't matter?
Sithborg
Posted: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:22:06 AM
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Bombad Gungan gets around normal targetting restrictions. It does not get around whether the new target can be attacked (Execute Order 66 and Diplomat) or whether the character is affected or not (ie something that only affects Living character can be redirected to a Droid, just nothing happens).
LandShark
Posted: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:00:53 AM
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Bombad does not target, so the answer is yes. You can Bombad a character you would not normally be able to attack, such as a Stealth unit, or a Diplomat unit.
Sithborg
Posted: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:17:18 AM
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LandShark wrote:
Bombad does not target, so the answer is yes. You can Bombad a character you would not normally be able to attack, such as a Stealth unit, or a Diplomat unit.


Incorrect. It gets around TARGETTING restrictions, not attacking restrictions. While you would be able to redirect Grenades to a character with Diplomat in effect, you would still not be able to attack if the attack was redirected to that same character.
kezzamachine
Posted: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:19:43 PM
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Okay... clarification please?
Eroschilles
Posted: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:27:35 PM
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kezzamachine wrote:
Okay... clarification please?


Bombad changes who the target is and lets you get around targeting restrictions. But with Diplomat you cannot target or attack them as long as it's in effect. So, Jarjar can redirect the attack at the Diplomat, but the attack cannot be completed as long as the SA diplomat is in effect. But grenades don't require an actual attack, but they still target.

So if Jarjar is targeted with grenades, he can redirect it to a diplomat and the diplomat can be blown up. As far as I understand.

Does any of that help? Bombad is Bombad tough to understand sometimes.
Mandalore Da Beast
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Thank GOD no one in my area has that creep......
swinefeld
Posted: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 3:30:35 PM
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Mandalore Da Beast wrote:
Thank GOD no one in my area has that creep......


Bless yer Heart - you don't know how much fun you are missing Razz
Doogle126
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swinefeld wrote:
Mandalore Da Beast wrote:
Thank GOD no one in my area has that creep......


Bless yer Heart - you don't know how much fun you are missing Razz


*choke* *gurgle* *sputter* FUN???!!! Cursing Angry Blink Sneaky Mad Glare Crying


ThumpUp ThumpUp ThumpUp Just kidding, he is fun, lets make Darth Bane hit himself!
Mandalore Da Beast
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swinefeld wrote:
Mandalore Da Beast wrote:
Thank GOD no one in my area has that creep......


Bless yer Heart - you don't know how much fun you are missing Razz


Scared it would make my kriffin' brain hurt!!
obsidian7788
Posted: Sunday, November 1, 2009 2:22:40 PM
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jeez after being adjacent to him i would wanna hit myself too. wishing for a crit. mesa so sparkly.
Jonnyb815
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Im really lost. From my understanding if you make your Bombad save you can make them target the noble or anyone within 6 since Bombad atk part is non-targetable.I understand the Bombad save is targeted but not the attack part.
I know about droids/thud or lighing/vong.

Q: Does Bombad Gungan allow you to attack a character you can't normally attack, like a character 6 squares away with a melee attack, or a Diplomat when you can see an enemy non-Diplomat?

A: Yes.

Q: Could Bombad Gungan be used to force a character to attack a character with a special ability that makes it an illegal target, like a Cloaked character from a non-adjacent square, or an Order 66 character attacking Emperor Palpatine Sith Lord?

A: Yes.

Q: What exactly does it mean when the attack or ability is "redirected". Does the other character become the target?

A: No. It becomes a non-targeted attack on the selected character, so something like Draw Fire would no longer be possible after redirecting for example.

I guess the FAQ is wrong and you guys are right!!!BigGrin

Jonnyb815
Posted: Monday, November 2, 2009 4:32:19 AM
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So from the FAQ its(the redirect) a non-targeted attack,can be used vs nobles and Order 66. unless I am reading the FAQ wrong.
swinefeld
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Jonnyb815 wrote:
So from the FAQ its(the redirect) a non-targeted attack,can be used vs nobles and Order 66. unless I am reading the FAQ wrong.


The FAQ seems to make a specific exception for Bombad. Under normal circumstances, when the Diplomat ability is in effect, that character can not be targeted OR attacked.

A non-targeting attack is still an attack, which is why Lord Vader has to combine Lightsaber Sweep with Overwhelming Force to get around both restrictions.

Sithborg
Posted: Monday, November 2, 2009 5:04:44 AM
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Jonnyb815 wrote:
So from the FAQ its(the redirect) a non-targeted attack,can be used vs nobles and Order 66. unless I am reading the FAQ wrong.


Yes, however it doesn't mean that it still does anything. Force Corruption can be retargetted to Droid, and so nothing happens.
swinefeld
Posted: Monday, November 2, 2009 5:36:23 AM
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Sithborg wrote:
Jonnyb815 wrote:
So from the FAQ its(the redirect) a non-targeted attack,can be used vs nobles and Order 66. unless I am reading the FAQ wrong.


Yes, however it doesn't mean that it still does anything. Force Corruption can be retargetted to Droid, and so nothing happens.


So if Jar Jar forces a character to attack a Diplomat while another enemy is in LOS, the attack is effectively ignored?
Sithborg
Posted: Monday, November 2, 2009 5:51:45 AM
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Correct.
Jonnyb815
Posted: Monday, November 2, 2009 5:56:44 AM
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Sithborg wrote:
Correct.

I dont think so might want to use search on WOTC.BigGrin

wow I dont know what to say. it says right in the FAQ it can be attacked.
here you go
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75862/19464746/Bombad_Gungan_and_Diplotmat?post_id=331145542#331145542
swinefeld
Posted: Monday, November 2, 2009 7:10:26 AM
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Jonnyb815 wrote:
Sithborg wrote:
Correct.

I dont think so might want to use search on WOTC.

wow I dont know what to say. it says right in the FAQ it can be attacked.
here you go
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75862/19464746/Bombad_Gungan_and_Diplotmat?post_id=331145542#331145542


Right you are!

My favorite part of that thread:

Nickname wrote:
Bombad is designed to unpredictably drop an anvil on anyone's head if they get near Jar Jar.


LOL
Jonnyb815
Posted: Monday, November 2, 2009 7:17:56 AM
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I think Rob did a good job with Bombad Gungan since its just annoying to try and understand let alone play against.
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