RegisterDonateLogin

Bluer than a Rutian Twi'lek on a cold day.

Welcome Guest Active Topics | Members

I got a good one! Options
kezzamachine
Posted: Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:59:27 AM
Rank: Moderator
Groups: Member , Moderator

Joined: 9/23/2008
Posts: 1,487
Location: Lower the Hutt, New Zealand
Thought about this at 2am (when I woke up accidentally) - can you Cortosis Gaunlet an Overwhelming Force attack?!?
jedispyder
Posted: Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:14:01 AM
Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member
Groups: Member

Joined: 3/27/2008
Posts: 871
Location: Cincinnati, OH
AFAIK you can't use Lightsaber Block against an attack with Overwhelming Force, and Cortosis is only when using Lightsaber Block.
billiv15
Posted: Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:51:37 AM
Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member
Groups: Member

Joined: 4/4/2008
Posts: 1,441
kezzamachine wrote:
Thought about this at 2am (when I woke up accidentally) - can you Cortosis Gaunlet an Overwhelming Force attack?!?


No, because you can't use lightsaber block.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Sunday, March 21, 2010 9:08:09 AM
Rank: Moderator
Groups: Member , Moderator

Joined: 5/26/2009
Posts: 8,428
billiv15 wrote:
kezzamachine wrote:
Thought about this at 2am (when I woke up accidentally) - can you Cortosis Gaunlet an Overwhelming Force attack?!?


No, because you can't use lightsaber block.


Not saying you're wrong, because I sure don't know, but that's not the way Overwhelming Force reads:

(Force; 1 Force point) When this character uses this Force power, its attacks (or damage from its attacks) cannot be prevented or redirected this turn. Enemies cannot use abilities such as Parry or Lightsaber Block to avoid damage, Damage Reduction has no effect, and abilities such as Draw Fire or Bodyguard cannot force this character to attack or deal damage to a different character. Likewise, abilities that reflect damage back to the attacker have no effect against this character’s attacks. Overwhelming Force does not affect damage from effects that are not attacks, such as Force Lightning. This Force power works even when this character is making an attack of opportunity.

It says you cannot use Lightsaber Block "to avoid damage", not that you can't use it at all. Similarly, it says that abilities to reflect damage back to the attacker "have no effect against this character's attacks". In both cases, it essentially says the abilities have no effect, not that they can't be used. Of course, there's usually no reason to use an ability whose effect will be ignored anyway, but Cortosis Gauntlet gives a reason. They'd still take the damage from the attack even with a successful block, but could invoke Cortosis Gauntlet in the process. Does the FAQ mention it?

Sithborg
Posted: Sunday, March 21, 2010 9:40:10 AM
Rank: Moderator
Groups: Member , Moderator, Rules Guy

Joined: 8/24/2008
Posts: 5,201
Block is an ability to prevent damage. It cannot be used against Overwhelming Force. Since you cannot use Block, you have no way to trigger Cortosis. Cortosis is ability that is dependant on Block, which is still an ability to prevent damage, no matter what piggy backs on it, and Overwhelming prevents its use.
markedman247
Posted: Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:48:04 AM
Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member
Groups: Member

Joined: 5/14/2008
Posts: 2,063
Yep, Sithborg is correct (not that there is any doubt) as I asked this on the main rules forum at WotC a long time back and NN responded in kind.
Users browsing this topic
Guest


Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Main Forum RSS : RSS

Bloo Milk Theme Created by shinja
Powered by Yet Another Forum.net.
Copyright © 2003-2006 Yet Another Forum.net. All rights reserved.